I cringed a little bit in my mouth when I saw this topics headline.
But I was pleasantly surprised how upbeat Mike's initial message and
other's responses were. This is a rah-rah Rivendell post in my
opinion, not at all a bash.

Most of us here are experienced enough to not expect perfection from
Rivendell, or any other craftsperson product. Just a unique and well-
made product and a good relationship with the company that will help
us when things go wrong.  This post affirms that.

I would like to thank all the good folks at Rivendell for breathing
new life into cycling for me in my post-racing bicycle life. They
showed me a new way where it is not all about speed and efficiency and
testing my testosterone level. I consider them friends that I have
never met, but I know I will enjoy the chat when I get the chance.

Member ever since 1994

On Nov 23, 11:56 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> You know....as much as we try, as conscientious as we are, as much as
> we speak, believe and communicate that what we do is sincere and based
> on quite-a-lot-of experience and not cutting corners and so on...once
> in a while a frame breaks. Statistically it is inevitable. It is a
> drag to have it aired, but so be it... Companies are supposed to be
> impersonal and without feelings, just companies, and so there it is.
> In this particular case, it is a break we've seen before. That doesn't
> mean it's a defect, either in design, manufacturing, or materials. The
> internet has the potential to expose-maybe for the good, I don't know--
> every little embarassment that may befall us or them or even y'all.
> We will get the frame back. The dropout will be repaired and made
> stronger than new. Meanwhile, I hold on to this fact dearly: Better a
> rear dropout than a fork. Better in repairable steel than in carbon.
> All will be well!
> Grant
>
> On Nov 23, 2:23 pm, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I headed out on my Ram today after making some changes to it earlier
> > in the week. The changes being trading out the 32 Pasela's for Ruffy
> > Tuffys, putting on cloth bar tape and stripping away the heavy seat
> > bags for a burrito wrap. Since getting the bike last year I had only
> > ever run Pasela's on it and pretty much always had fenders and some
> > kind of saddlebag. Since I now also have an AHH I wanted to make the
> > Rambouillet a little racier.
>
> > I headed out and the ride certainly felt different but the bike
> > remained comfortable. The tires seemed to make a huge difference in at
> > least feeling fast and their design inspires more cornering confidence
> > than the Paselas.
>
> > I was pedaling along thinking about all this, and some other cycling
> > related things, when the bike started to make a weird noise. I checked
> > the cranks and BB but everything seemed find. I got back on it, rode a
> > short distance (25ft or so) and the noise persisted along with a
> > feeling of springyness. I thought maybe I had broken a spoke. As I was
> > checking I noticed that my chainstay was broken all the way through.
> > It could easily be pulled apart. The bike certainly couldn't handle my
> > 190lbs. Of course this was like the one ride I didn't bring my phone
> > on. Some cyclist stopped when they noticed me walking my bike along
> > Skyline. I was able to borrow a phone and leave a message for my wife
> > but was pretty much stuck walking home, a good 10 to 12 miles
> > including down a 4 mile descent. I did not trust the bike to even be
> > able to safely coast down the descent.
>
> > As I was walking along one of the cyclist returned on his scooter with
> > some pipe clamps and some metal sleeves. These were used to support
> > the stay so that I could pedal home. It worked great. Because I use
> > Silver shifters (friction) I was even able to get clean shifts as I
> > pedaled home.
>
> > Check out the fix:http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]/3054058334/in/set-721576098...
>
> > And the crack:http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED]/3054058864/in/set-721576098...
>
> > I've sent an email to Grant and will contact RBW tomorrow about how to
> > warranty the bike. I feel confident that RBW will take responsibility
> > and address the issue. I am bummed that my ride was cut short and
> > bummed that a bike that has brought me so much happiness has had this
> > happen. It hasn't been crashed or used to jump garbage cans. It did
> > sustain a ding to the top tube a month after I bought it but that
> > would have no bearing on what happened today.
>
> > I related all this not to belittle Rivendell, it's just one of those
> > things that happened, but because it was so great that with a simple
> > fix I was able to ride home. And how great is that that a stranger
> > came and found me to assist me. And how about friction shifting? If I
> > had STI or Ergo shifters I'll be it would have been off because the
> > rear wheel was out of alignment with the frame.
>
> > Luckily I have a new AHH in the basement which I love but I was really
> > excited about my Rambouillet today as I started my ride. It felt like
> > a whole new bike.
>
> > One other thing. I was one of those people who was critical of the
> > Betty Foy headbadge. Grant wished a pox upon us. Look what happened!
>
> > --mike- Hide quoted text -
>
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