On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > What we need is more programmers with a passion for their job, and if that > means learning to write games, then so be it. One of the problems with "9 to > 5 code monkeys" is that programming is just a job for them. They do the > absolute minimum they need to keep their job. They don't program for fun, or > to learn new skills, or to solve problems. They go to user groups and forums > like here only when they have a question they want answered, they take and > take and take and they never give back.
Absolutely agree... as long as that passion results in solid competence. Whether someone comes into programming because s/he wants to write games, organize recipes, automate some specific task, or prove some mathematical point, non-trivial programming nearly always requires non-trivial effort. That's the same as any other skill (you wouldn't expect to be able to build a car in a day, even if you've been driving them for *ages* - like, say, two whole years - and have this brilliant idea for how you could improve on every car on the roads), but for some reason a lot of people think that computers should be easy. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list