On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 04:44:49PM -0400, Patrick Domack wrote:
> 
> Why bother whitelisting any ip address? I have my system flag the
> outgoing and incoming email address.

Am I defensive or stupid for wondering what's the point of your question? 
Surely people whitelist all kinds of things with different methods?  Why do
dnswl.org or other IP whitelisting exist?  There are too many angles to
consider.

> If the from address and the to address, are reversed from how the
> email went from me to them, AND it passes other checks, like spf,
> THEN that email can come directly in.

Nothing wrong with this. Of course it's just one method amongst others and
targets a pretty "narrow area".

> This isn't affected by shared servers, whitelisting incorrect ip
> addresses, and other issues.

Makes it sound like there are severe issues. All this is rare and in reality
the whitelisting we are talking about is only about skipping some MTA rules
that might directly delay or reject mail. Things change the more deeper you
apply.

> I also run most of my domains with different incoming and outgoing
> ip addresses for email.

But are they in the same subnet? Even if they aren't, it makes no
difference. There are plenty enough servers that are. Different methods
target different things.

I'm truly sorry if I sound harsh or defensive, but that may be the direct
Finnish way. Still, is it too much to ask for looking at things from many
angles or backing up claims with any kind of statistics or science instead
of personal gut feelings?

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