On 22.12.2011 04:24, Richard Damon wrote:
> I also have one web hosting provider that basically does NOT provide
> outgoing SMTP service, they specifically state that they expect you to
> be using your ISPs SMTP server to be sending out your email. (They do
> provide a very throttled outgoing SMTP server if you really need it).

no it is not this way

for such cases we use sender dependent-relayhosts with authentication
in our admin-backend, so WE NEVER directly submit mail with foreign
senders, the customer can use our server and we do not break SPF

> In this environment, for an ISP to say that your outgoing emails must be
> from "their" domain, would be unacceptable, and cause a loss of business.

and that is way ISPs often blacklisted and in some baclklists
even CUSTOMERS of this ISP which does not show any reaction
to complaints because they could chosse one who does

"ISP" and "would be unacceptable" is somehow dumb because you
are not realizing that this is a no-go - why? because if ONE
customer is infected by malware this starts to send with
spoofed senders and burn down the reputation of this poorly
setup host - so who wil send about servers the half world
throws away mails from them?

if i have a domain i have a mailserver respsonsible for this domain
if i want to send mails with f...@mydomain.tld i have to use this server
there is no "if" and "but", accept it or live with the problems



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