On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 03:09:01PM +0100, John Adams wrote:

> Yes, I understand that. But that is not how I experienced the world. 
> Usually, if person X from domain X could not mail to person Z from domain Z 
> for a reject reason given by mail provider M, then X would call Z (I cannot 
> send you mails) and Z would call M (X cannot send us mails). Does this 
> sound reasonable to you?

The mail provider implements all technologies associated with the mail
system, including any troubleshooting HTML for legitimate servers who
encounter difficulties.

Sure, if the sender knows the recipient domain's (M's client's) contact
information he/she can start there, but M's SMTP servers should in most
cases refer the sender to M's help page and M's contact information.  

The new 2.8 feature is a reasonable cost/benefit trade-off.

-- 
        Viktor.

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