Am 29.12.24 um 06:45 schrieb Ralph Seichter via Postfix-users:
* Steffen Nurpmeso via Postfix-users:

there is this IETF draft which asks for support SMTPS (aka really,
now), that is Implicit TLS via dedicated port for SMTP.

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nurpmeso-smtp-tls-srv/02/

Hello,

I've problems with that

1. usually, IETF drafts are discussed on IETF mailing lists.
   I didn't found any such discussion not even an announcement "hey, there is this 
draft, what do you think?"

2. the draft say
   > This specification avoids downgrade attacks on the opportunistic approach 
of STARTTLS

   I can't agree. A active attacker, able to strip STARTTLS from the EHLO 
server response, is also able to strip the SRV record from dns.
   It's only harder.

I do not think, this is currently a topic for this list.

Andreas

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