On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:42 PM Roelof Wobben <r.wob...@home.nl> wrote:

> Op 23-4-2020 om 23:00 schreef Richard Sargent:
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:14 PM Roelof Wobben <r.wob...@home.nl> wrote:
>
>> Op 23-4-2020 om 21:09 schreef Richard Sargent:
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:00 PM Roelof Wobben <r.wob...@home.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Op 23-4-2020 om 20:52 schreef Richard Sargent:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:32 AM Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users <
>>> pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I like Pharo a lot but I hit a wall very often.
>>>> With complex problems I do not see how to solve things in small steps.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would be happy to help with the Smalltalk and problem analysis
>>> aspects. Unfortunately, I don't use Pharo much, so I cannot help with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is there somewhere who is willing to mentor me in how I can overcome
>>>> that problem.
>>>>
>>>> Roelof
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Pity,
>>>
>>>
>>> but if you could help me to learn how to divide a complex problem in
>>> smaller steps , then I think I can make it work in Pharo.   My problem is
>>> more that then how to do it in Pharo.
>>>
>>> Do you then use gemtalk a lot.
>>> Pity that I cannot make exercism challenges on that.
>>> And AdventOfCode do seem to difficult for a beginner.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I can help with those areas. I've been programming professionally
>> and virtually exclusively in Smalltalk since 1991.
>>
>> I've been using GemStone/S since 2009 and now work for the manufacturer.
>> I've been working with VA Smalltalk and its predecessors since 1994 and
>> with VisualWorks since 2009.
>>
>> I hear you about using GemStone/S. For most of its life, the assumption
>> was that you would use a client Smalltalk like VA Smalltalk or VisualWorks
>> to do your development work. Although, recently we've been working on
>> Jadeite (https://github.com/GemTalk/Jadeite) to provide a development
>> environment independent of GBS (which is what we used to connect VA
>> Smalltalk and VisualWorks to GemStone/S).
>>
>>
>>> Roelof
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Oke, I have heard of it  but because I could not find a course or book
>> about gemstone and found a mooc about Pharo I choose that one.
>>
>
> Pharo is an excellent choice and the MOOC should help.
>
>
>> But is there then much difference between Pharo and Gemstone or can I
>> make a solution to a problem and use the same code for both.
>>
>
> There are many differences. Most notably, GemStone doesn't have a GUI.
> However, there are many people using what's called "Develop in Pharo,
> deploy in GemStone" with Seaside.
>
>
>> For me programming is a hobby. In the Netherlands most companies use c#
>> and with 53 and no XP I do not think its wise to  think I find a job as
>> developer.
>>
>
> It's a good hobby. I wouldn't plan on finding a job, if I were you, but
> you never know. Opportunities come along, especially if you are ready for
> one.
>
>
>> Roelof
>>
>>
> Oke,
>
> if you still wanted , it is fine with me that you mentor me.
> But I think we need to  find a way to make it work and I do not know if
> posting on the pharo ml is a good way to make it work because then we
> pollute the ML and other people can interfer.
>
> Do you have any ideas ?
> For me its fine that you send emails to my personal email.
>

Either way works for me, but I think discussing the issues on list will be
beneficial. There are a lot of other people out there who will have ideas
and different perspectives. And some of them might be able to answer your
questions more quickly than I could get to them.


> Roelof
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