On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:14 PM Roelof Wobben <r.wob...@home.nl> wrote:

> Op 23-4-2020 om 21:09 schreef Richard Sargent:
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:00 PM Roelof Wobben <r.wob...@home.nl> wrote:
>
>> Op 23-4-2020 om 20:52 schreef Richard Sargent:
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:32 AM Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users <
>> pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I like Pharo a lot but I hit a wall very often.
>>> With complex problems I do not see how to solve things in small steps.
>>>
>>
>> I would be happy to help with the Smalltalk and problem analysis aspects.
>> Unfortunately, I don't use Pharo much, so I cannot help with it.
>>
>>
>>> Is there somewhere who is willing to mentor me in how I can overcome
>>> that problem.
>>>
>>> Roelof
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Pity,
>>
>>
>> but if you could help me to learn how to divide a complex problem in
>> smaller steps , then I think I can make it work in Pharo.   My problem is
>> more that then how to do it in Pharo.
>>
>> Do you then use gemtalk a lot.
>> Pity that I cannot make exercism challenges on that.
>> And AdventOfCode do seem to difficult for a beginner.
>>
>
> Yes, I can help with those areas. I've been programming professionally and
> virtually exclusively in Smalltalk since 1991.
>
> I've been using GemStone/S since 2009 and now work for the manufacturer.
> I've been working with VA Smalltalk and its predecessors since 1994 and
> with VisualWorks since 2009.
>
> I hear you about using GemStone/S. For most of its life, the assumption
> was that you would use a client Smalltalk like VA Smalltalk or VisualWorks
> to do your development work. Although, recently we've been working on
> Jadeite (https://github.com/GemTalk/Jadeite) to provide a development
> environment independent of GBS (which is what we used to connect VA
> Smalltalk and VisualWorks to GemStone/S).
>
>
>> Roelof
>>
>>
>
> Oke, I have heard of it  but because I could not find a course or book
> about gemstone and found a mooc about Pharo I choose that one.
>

Pharo is an excellent choice and the MOOC should help.


> But is there then much difference between Pharo and Gemstone or can I make
> a solution to a problem and use the same code for both.
>

There are many differences. Most notably, GemStone doesn't have a GUI.
However, there are many people using what's called "Develop in Pharo,
deploy in GemStone" with Seaside.


> For me programming is a hobby. In the Netherlands most companies use c#
> and with 53 and no XP I do not think its wise to  think I find a job as
> developer.
>

It's a good hobby. I wouldn't plan on finding a job, if I were you, but you
never know. Opportunities come along, especially if you are ready for one.


> Roelof
>
>

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