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Op 23-4-2020 om 23:00 schreef Richard Sargent:
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:14 PM Roelof Wobben <r.wob...@home.nl> wrote:
Op 23-4-2020 om 21:09 schreef Richard Sargent:
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:00 PM Roelof Wobben <r.wob...@home.nl> wrote:
Op 23-4-2020 om 20:52 schreef Richard Sargent:
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:32 AM Roelof Wobben via Pharo-users <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
Hello,

I like Pharo a lot but I hit a wall very often.
With complex problems I do not see how to solve things in small steps.

I would be happy to help with the Smalltalk and problem analysis aspects. Unfortunately, I don't use Pharo much, so I cannot help with it.


Is there somewhere who is willing to mentor me in how I can overcome
that problem.

Roelof



Pity,


but if you could help me to learn how to divide a complex problem in smaller steps , then I think I can make it work in Pharo.   My problem is more that then how to do it in Pharo.

Do you then use gemtalk a lot.
Pity that I cannot make exercism challenges on that.
And AdventOfCode do seem to difficult for a beginner.

Yes, I can help with those areas. I've been programming professionally and virtually exclusively in Smalltalk since 1991.

I've been using GemStone/S since 2009 and now work for the manufacturer. I've been working with VA Smalltalk and its predecessors since 1994 and with VisualWorks since 2009.

I hear you about using GemStone/S. For most of its life, the assumption was that you would use a client Smalltalk like VA Smalltalk or VisualWorks to do your development work. Although, recently we've been working on Jadeite (https://github.com/GemTalk/Jadeite) to provide a development environment independent of GBS (which is what we used to connect VA Smalltalk and VisualWorks to GemStone/S).


Roelof



Oke, I have heard of it  but because I could not find a course or book about gemstone and found a mooc about Pharo I choose that one.

Pharo is an excellent choice and the MOOC should help.


But is there then much difference between Pharo and Gemstone or can I make a solution to a problem and use the same code for both.

There are many differences. Most notably, GemStone doesn't have a GUI. However, there are many people using what's called "Develop in Pharo, deploy in GemStone" with Seaside.


For me programming is a hobby. In the Netherlands most companies use c#  and with 53 and no XP I do not think its wise to  think I find a job as developer.

It's a good hobby. I wouldn't plan on finding a job, if I were you, but you never know. Opportunities come along, especially if you are ready for one.


Roelof


Oke,

if you still wanted , it is fine with me that you mentor me.
But I think we need to  find a way to make it work and I do not know if posting on the pharo ml is a good way to make it work because then we pollute the ML and other people can interfer.

Do you have any ideas ?
For me its fine that you send emails to my personal email.

Roelof



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