My experience is the same as Paul's.  LR is good at processing successive 
images with the same
settings, but I found its cataloguing system did not work for me: my folder 
structure suits my needs
better.  I do have both via the subscription module, and the long term benefit 
is that you always
have the latest version without any additional cost, rather than having to 
spend several hundred
dollars every few years (even if you skipped intermediate upgrades).

John in Brisbane


-----Original Message-----
From: PDML [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist
Sent: Saturday, 6 December 2014 9:25 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: The horse is dead, but let's flog it some more anyway.

I use photoshop exclusively. I frequently do a lot of post work and ps is the 
best tool in many
cases. But more importantly it's familiar and feels right. I have my own filing 
system that I access
with Bridge. It's all working fine. Tried Lightroom 2 years ago, didn't like 
it. 

Paul via phone

> On Dec 5, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Malcolm Smith <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Mark Roberts wrote:
>> 
>>> Each one will do things the other won't, but Lightroom is by far the 
>>> better tool for photographers these days; Photoshop has become more 
>>> of a graphic designer's tool. That's not to say you can't have a 
>>> good workflow with Photoshop and Bridge, but if you find yourself 
>>> regularly needing the features of Photoshop that Lightroom can't do 
>>> there are probably shortcomings in your photographic technique that 
>>> need addressing more than software. If you're going to have one tool 
>>> for photography Lightroom is the best choice. If you can afford both 
>>> then get both :)
>> 
>> Shortcomings in photo technique; well, quite probably but we won't go 
>> there today. I was more concerned with how LR would deal with repair 
>> of damaged photos, but having had a look at the videos that George 
>> recommended, I am really surprised at how much LR can do. I really 
>> want to buy rather than rent (right term?), so I'll grab the latest 
>> version and see where we go from there.
> 
> Lightroom is the right choice for most photographers' work, most of 
> the time. But photo repair and restoration is similar to retouching 
> and is a specialized task that I myself don't undertake in Lightroom, 
> rather I use Photoshop for it. For example, you need to be able to use 
> precision healing and cloning tools with low percentage flow and a lot 
> of feathering.
> 
> For your poll: I use both Lightroom and Photoshop, but I'm hanging on 
> to my slightly out of date paid-for copies. I will not move to a 
> Creative Cloud subscription until I have no other choice. Eg: s/w no 
> longer runs on latest Mac OS X, or I desperately need a new product 
> feature.
> 
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