For what it's worth, I got my son a KR-5 Super on eBay for $60, complete
with a 35-70 zoom, filter and a camera bag. He's happy and I'm happy because
the Beaver tends to me a tad rough with stuff, so if something happens to
it, I'm only out $60. When we're together, I loan him my pentax lenses.
Frankly, the Ricoh is a neat little camera for the price.
--- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Get him the K-1000! It's nothing to do with what you want; it's 
> everything to do with teaching youngsters the principles of photography. 
> If you get him an automatic-this, automatic-that camera, what will he 
> learn? How to compose an image? And what else?
> 
> My son will be in a similar situation soon and I am contemplating getting 
> him a camera with no light meter in it at all. It's only after learning 
> what it's all about and exploring the image-making with very basic 
> equipment that the appreciation is experienced. Before he was allowed to 
> use an electronic calculator, he had to prove that he could do the sums 
> in his head, and on paper. He *earned* the calculator. Now, he has 
> *earned* a PowerBook as well. He is learning (and earning) all the time, 
> and he's having fun on the way.
> 
> Hell, most of us remember our first cameras - whether they were ours, the 
> school's, or whatever. If I was quick, I would get the Spottie with the 
> sello-taped film door, if not, I was landed with a Zenit, and boy did 
> they chew up film sprockets. I eventually saved for a Practica, then a 
> Fujica 605, and finally the MX. Interestingly, I had an ME Super once, 
> but found I was using the MX more, so sold it. I'm still fully manual, 
> and love it.
> 
> Not to say I'm a luddite - I am chomping at the bit for a MZ-D (MZ-S 
> digital) - can't wait. But this is because I know how to calculate 
> exposure, depth of field, etc, and how to develop and print. I learned 
> from the very basics, and I would heartily recommend it to anyone with 
> children starting out in picture-taking.
> 
> Only one thing I would change : instead of the K-1000, at least get him a 
> *decent* manual camera: an MX of course ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Cotty 
>  
> >> I am looking to buy  a Pentax K-mount camera as a first time camera my
> Son.
> >> There are quite a few K1000's, a Ricoh KR-5, KR-5 Super, XR7(body) and
> >> Sears(Ricoh)KS Super, and a Kalimar SLR K-90.
> >> 
> >> Which to choose?
> 
> >Unless your son specifically requested a fully manual camera, why would 
> >you do this to
> >someone you love?
> >
> >I spent 4yrs in the Photography/Graphic Arts labs of my local college... 
> >back in the early
> >80's & no one, but no one really wanted the fully manual cameras their 
> >parents bought back
> [snip]
> 
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