I'm very glad to hear it.

On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:07 am, goshawk on horseback 
<goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:

> I don't like spending hours looking stuff up, I do do other things as well.
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:01 PM
> Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
> 
> 
> Well indeed I could but how about you using your consumate skills and having 
> a go, I can assure you that Google won't blow your computer to pieces and 
> you'll find it most rewarding.
> 
> 
> On 22 Nov 2013, at 8:01 am, goshawk on horseback 
> <goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> may be, since you so enjoy looking things up yourself, you could give us
>> some more direct links for some of these accessible players that do play
>> many different file types, or the add ons for them to do so please, as not
>> all of us like spending hours looking stuff up.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
>> 
>> 
>> Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp
>> supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.
>> 
>> I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support
>> FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again
>> <smile>. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the 
>> addition
>> of "Extenders" or "Plugins", funny that, I've heard the mention of 
>> "Plugins"
>> when it comes to Winamp too!
>> 
>> Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this
>> discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you 
>> like,
>> it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the 
>> product
>> won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado about
>> nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 20
>> December just because of the end of Winamp.
>> 
>> 
>> On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback
>> <goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and
>>> customizing
>>> stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts
>>> were
>>> already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
>>> through all of that looking up stuff.
>>> winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes,
>>> plus
>>> many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
>>> obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different
>>> formats,
>>> such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
>>> I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who
>>> like
>>> winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.
>>> 
>>> Simon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
>>> Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
>>> other players.
>>> 
>>> For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
>>> using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.
>>> 
>>> I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
>>> prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.
>>> 
>>> I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
>>> is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.
>>> 
>>> If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
>>> the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
>>> have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
>>> is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.
>>> 
>>> And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
>>> there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
>>> see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
>>> audio/video formats that come our way in the future.
>>> 
>>> As I said, much ado about nothing and "Joy To The World" come December
>>> 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day <smile>.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>>> I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, 
>>>> will
>>>> they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
>>>> example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
>>>> will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
>>>> Media
>>>> Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some
>>>> of
>>>> the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to
>>>> be
>>>> able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
>>>> point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will 
>>>> do
>>>> this easily, fine!
>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>>>> Trethowan
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Player
>>>> 
>>>> So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about
>>>> nothing
>>>> given there are alternatives out there.
>>>> 
>>>> And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't
>>>>> know
>>>> how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so
>>>> I
>>>> don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason 
>>>> are
>>>> hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
>>>> accessible.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kaufman" <tomca...@comcast.net>
>>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
>>>>> Subject: RE: ITunes Player
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one
>>>>>> to
>>>> do
>>>>>> things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a
>>>> command
>>>>>> as Winamp does!
>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Dane
>>>>>> Trethowan
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Player
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope you enjoy it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little
>>>> things
>>>>>> I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio 
>>>>>> for
>>>> some
>>>>>> strange reason but the software is very accessible.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you 
>>>>>>> access
>>>>>> music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use
>>>>>> ITunes
>>>>>> yet, but may soon.
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