Some Media Players use Music Brains, CDDB or both but not all use Gracenote, 
the reason being that Gracenote charge for their database.

On 22 Nov 2013, at 9:35 am, Bradford Trainham <bradford.train...@sbcglobal.net> 
wrote:

> Other rippers use GraceNote. I’m an iTunes man lately but I don’t think 
> GraceNote is depending on Winamp so you should be able to find other means of 
> accessing tag info.
> On Nov 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> Only thing that worries me is if I will still have access to the Gracenote 
>> Database for tagging..
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 7:55 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
>> 
>> No reason why you can't, just it won't be updated etc as far as I can tell 
>> so much ado about nothing <smile>.
>> 
>> 
>> On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:51 am, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I couldn't really understand why we couldn't use the present Winamp we have.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Two things, firstly you're making generalisations when you talk of Winamp 
>>>> supporting more file types, just have a look at some other players.
>>>> 
>>>> I had been under the impression that Windows Media Player wouldn't support 
>>>> FLAC audio files but I've since discovered - thanks to Google once again 
>>>> <smile>. - that it can support FLAC and many other formats with the 
>>>> addition of "Extenders" or "Plugins", funny that, I've heard the mention 
>>>> of "Plugins" when it comes to Winamp too!
>>>> 
>>>> Secondly, its not what I like or don't like that is essentual to this 
>>>> discussion, fact is that you can use Winamp whenever and wherever you 
>>>> like, it makes no difference to me or anyone else, only thing is that the 
>>>> product won't be updated after December 20 etc so I repeat again, much ado 
>>>> about nothing and look forward to Christmas as the world will not end of 
>>>> 20 December just because of the end of Winamp.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22 Nov 2013, at 7:17 am, goshawk on horseback 
>>>> <goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> for a start, whilst you may like all that looking things up and 
>>>>> customizing
>>>>> stuff, not everyone does. at least with winamp, the keyboard shortcuts 
>>>>> were
>>>>> already there, and could all be found in the menus, with out having to go
>>>>> through all of that looking up stuff.
>>>>> winamp will play so many more different file types/formats than iTunes, 
>>>>> plus
>>>>> many more can be added with extra plugins. this is great if one is an
>>>>> obscure format fiend, or has collections of stuff in many different 
>>>>> formats,
>>>>> such as mod, xm, s3m for example.
>>>>> I really don't see why you have to be so very harsh on those of us who 
>>>>> like
>>>>> winamp! there is really no need for that sort of attitude.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Simon
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM
>>>>> Subject: The World Ends With The Demise Of Winamp
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Okay so are you just saying that or have you actually tried and explored
>>>>> other players.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For example I've just looked up Windows Media Player Keyboard Shortcuts
>>>>> using my friend Google and discovered over 200 keyboard shortcuts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know VLC has hundreds of the damn things and even more if you're
>>>>> prepared to take a few moments to customise the software.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm yet to find what iTunes doesn't do that Winamp does.  The interface
>>>>> is different and takes a little getting used to I admit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you're prepared to spend a small amount of money you can buy one of
>>>>> the most exciting pieces of audio software for the Windows PC to ever
>>>>> have been invented on the planet and that's Total Recorder, the player
>>>>> is incredibly powerful even for the Standard Edition.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And finally, supposing Winamp is a spent force come December 20 then
>>>>> there's nothing at all stopping anyone from using the software if they
>>>>> see fit though that may mean that the software won't be able to play any
>>>>> audio/video formats that come our way in the future.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As I said, much ado about nothing and "Joy To The World" come December
>>>>> 20, so fitting that this event is so close to Christmas Day <smile>.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/11/2013 2:19 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>>>>> I don't think you understand; while these players may be accessible, will
>>>>>> they allow one to do _all_ the things that Winamp does?  Wil they, for
>>>>>> example, start listening to a file; then you have to stop in the middle;
>>>>>> will they let you go in and pick up right where you left off?  Windows
>>>>>> Media
>>>>>> Player won't; at least as far as I know it won't!  Can't speak for some 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the others as I've not tried them!  But this is my concern as I want to 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> able to start listening to a show and be able to stop it; then go to the
>>>>>> point where I stopped listening later on!  If these other players will do
>>>>>> this easily, fine!
>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>>>>>> Trethowan
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:47 AM
>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Player
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So in other words - if Winamp ceases to exist - its much ado about 
>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>> given there are alternatives out there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And by the way the software is called iTunes and not iTunes player.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 21 Nov 2013, at 8:23 pm, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe that's also why I mentioned the ITunes player, because I don't 
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>> how accessible it is.  People mention Fubar, but I've never tried it, so 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> don't know how accessible it is compared to Winamp.  Maybe the reason are
>>>>>> hooked on Winamp, is because of the Winamp keystrokes that people find
>>>>>> accessible.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kaufman" <tomca...@comcast.net>
>>>>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:09 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: ITunes Player
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Windows Media is pretty accessible.  However it still won't allow one 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> things like going to a specific point in a file, just by typing in a
>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>> as Winamp does!
>>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>>>>>>>> Trethowan
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:35 PM
>>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Player
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I hope you enjoy it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I also forgot to mention Windows Media Player, there are a few little
>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>> I don't like about it such as it not having support from FLAC audio for
>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> strange reason but the software is very accessible.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 21 Nov 2013, at 3:09 pm, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dane, you mentioned about the ITunes media plakyer, but can you access
>>>>>>>> music content on the web with that as a media player?  I don't use
>>>>>>>> ITunes
>>>>>>>> yet, but may soon.
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