Yes, I'm just hoping that Customer Service will let me exchange my Touch for 
the accessible model. No reason that they shouldn't. I'll pay the difference of 
course. When posting, I was just hoping to save others the inconvenience of a 
similar scenario, that's all.

Larry


   
On 2010-08-08, at 5:06 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

> Following some pointers from Dane, I found the site
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/itunes/ipodtouch.html which is Apple's
> accessibility site devoted to the iPod Touch. On this page it says:
> 
> "The same VoiceOver screen reader made popular on the Mac and the iPhone is
> now a standard feature on iPod touch 32GB and 64GB (3rd generation). It's
> the
> world's first gesture-based screen reader, enabling you to enjoy the fun and
> simplicity of iPod touch even if you can't see the screen."
> 
> Note that when I checked the specifications pages for the different models
> of the iPod touch, I didn't see that they specifically noted whether the
> model supported VoiceOver or not. The comparison table mentioned voiceOver
> for the Nano and the Shuffle, but not the iPod Touch.
> 
> As others have mentioned, I doubt they'll support VoiceOver on your model
> but I would hope they would let you return or exchange it, especially since
> it was a gift.
> 
> Your warning about doing your homework before you purchase something is duly
> noted. I've seen disappointed customers on both the Rockbox and Talks/Mobile
> Speak lists. Unfortunately, finding some of this accessibility information
> isn't easy.
> 
> --
> Christopher
> chalt...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Larry Naessens
> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 2:56 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Before You Buy an iPod Touch
> 
> When checking Apple's accessibility section on their Canadian site, we
> weren't able to locate any information stating that the 8 gig model was
> neither Generation 3 nor usable with a screen reader. Certainly there is the
> possibility that we missed it when checking the Canadian site and if you
> would like to share the link, we would be happy to take a look. 
> 
> My main reason for posting what I did was to try and help others to keep
> from making the same mistake as we did. You, without a doubt are this
> group's Apple expert, with information that many listers including myself
> have found to be extremely valuable. I hope you'll keep your Mac advise
> coming. 
> 
> Larry
> On 2010-08-08, at 3:15 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> 
>> Sorry to have to tell you that Apple Support couldn't have done much for
> you mate, if you looked on the web in Apple's accessibility section then you
> would have sen it clearly laid out what you've just written thus you would
> have saved yourself some considerable time.  No, Apple will not be making
> any previous Ipod Touch models Voiceover compatible just as they won't be
> making the Iphone 3G or previous Ipod Nano models before the 4th generation
> Voiceover compatible and part of the reason for that is that these devices
> may not have the processing power to handle Voiceover.  Yep, as I understand
> it you can download the IOS4 update to an Iphone 3G for example but only
> those features which the 3G can support will be activated.
>> 
>> 
>> On 09/08/2010, at 4:47 AM, Larry Naessens wrote:
>> 
>>> Before you, as a blind audio enthusiast, purchase an iPod Touch,
> expecting to be able to use it with Voiceover, in order to listen to online
> radio and so much more, you might want to keep my experience in mind. 
>>> 
>>> Not long ago, my wife bought me an iPod touch for my birthday.
> Understandably unaware  that the 8 gig version of the Touch was never
> updated to Version 3, she bought one. After all, on Apple's Canadian
> website, it was listed only as "current." Further, nothing on the box listed
> the item as version 2, a version which many of us know to be unaccessible. 
>>> 
>>> Since yesterday was Saturday, I spoke to Apple Support concerning my
> issue, as Customer Service was closed. When I spoke to the agent who took my
> call, I was told that information concerning the fact that the 8 gig touch
> had not been updated to version three was all over the website. I would like
> to ask him where such info is listed on the Canadian site, but instead I'll
> simply take my case to Customer Service on Monday.
>>> 
>>> My advice to those who are interested in purchasing the touch? If you
> need accessibility, purchase only version 3 of the Touch which comes in the
> 32 and 64 gig models. Anything less will not talk to you. And, so far
> anyway, it has been my experience that Apple sees such problems as Buyer
> Beware. Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised to learn that my problem is
> limited to one isolated agent. Meanwhile, when buying a touch, make sure to
> get the right one. 
>>> 
>>> Larry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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