One final note on the thread that I started last weekend. Apple has agreed to let me pay the difference and upgrade to the 32 gig iPod touch, while letting me return the 8 gig model. As mentioned here, the 32 and 64 gig iPod touches are Generation 3 and can therefore be used with Voiceover. The 8 gig is Generation 2 and cannot be used for Voiceover.
My thanks to list owner Tom for letting this discussion unfold as it could be considered off topic. I'm writing here only to let you know how the story ends. Larry On 2010-08-08, at 8:08 PM, Rob Bender wrote: > Hi Larry. Thanks for posting your message so others do not have the same > thing happen to them. I was considering buying an iPod Touch last winter, > and I found out that the 8 gig models were not accessible, but the > information was not readily available. . I am considering upgrading mine > and Lee's Nokia phones to iPhones to take advantage of the GPS and OCR. > Depending on if Apple will be releasing an iPod Touch with a camera, then we > may do that. The deal breaker may be how usable the GPS actually is in the > iPhone. I apologize if I am going out of bounds for this list. I would > appreciate any any observations or comments off list. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Naessens" <larr...@distributel.net> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 7:36 PM > Subject: Re: Before You Buy an iPod Touch > > >> Yes, I'm just hoping that Customer Service will let me exchange my Touch for >> the accessible model. No reason that they shouldn't. I'll pay the difference >> of course. When posting, I was just hoping to save others the inconvenience >> of a similar scenario, that's all. >> >> Larry >> >> >> >> On 2010-08-08, at 5:06 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >> >>> Following some pointers from Dane, I found the site >>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/itunes/ipodtouch.html which is Apple's >>> accessibility site devoted to the iPod Touch. On this page it says: >>> >>> "The same VoiceOver screen reader made popular on the Mac and the iPhone is >>> now a standard feature on iPod touch 32GB and 64GB (3rd generation). It's >>> the >>> world's first gesture-based screen reader, enabling you to enjoy the fun and >>> simplicity of iPod touch even if you can't see the screen." >>> >>> Note that when I checked the specifications pages for the different models >>> of the iPod touch, I didn't see that they specifically noted whether the >>> model supported VoiceOver or not. The comparison table mentioned voiceOver >>> for the Nano and the Shuffle, but not the iPod Touch. >>> >>> As others have mentioned, I doubt they'll support VoiceOver on your model >>> but I would hope they would let you return or exchange it, especially since >>> it was a gift. >>> >>> Your warning about doing your homework before you purchase something is duly >>> noted. I've seen disappointed customers on both the Rockbox and Talks/Mobile >>> Speak lists. Unfortunately, finding some of this accessibility information >>> isn't easy. >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher >>> chalt...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] >>> On Behalf Of Larry Naessens >>> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 2:56 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Before You Buy an iPod Touch >>> >>> When checking Apple's accessibility section on their Canadian site, we >>> weren't able to locate any information stating that the 8 gig model was >>> neither Generation 3 nor usable with a screen reader. Certainly there is the >>> possibility that we missed it when checking the Canadian site and if you >>> would like to share the link, we would be happy to take a look. >>> >>> My main reason for posting what I did was to try and help others to keep >>> from making the same mistake as we did. You, without a doubt are this >>> group's Apple expert, with information that many listers including myself >>> have found to be extremely valuable. I hope you'll keep your Mac advise >>> coming. >>> >>> Larry >>> On 2010-08-08, at 3:15 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry to have to tell you that Apple Support couldn't have done much for >>> you mate, if you looked on the web in Apple's accessibility section then you >>> would have sen it clearly laid out what you've just written thus you would >>> have saved yourself some considerable time. No, Apple will not be making >>> any previous Ipod Touch models Voiceover compatible just as they won't be >>> making the Iphone 3G or previous Ipod Nano models before the 4th generation >>> Voiceover compatible and part of the reason for that is that these devices >>> may not have the processing power to handle Voiceover. Yep, as I understand >>> it you can download the IOS4 update to an Iphone 3G for example but only >>> those features which the 3G can support will be activated. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 09/08/2010, at 4:47 AM, Larry Naessens wrote: >>>> >>>>> Before you, as a blind audio enthusiast, purchase an iPod Touch, >>> expecting to be able to use it with Voiceover, in order to listen to online >>> radio and so much more, you might want to keep my experience in mind. >>>>> >>>>> Not long ago, my wife bought me an iPod touch for my birthday. >>> Understandably unaware that the 8 gig version of the Touch was never >>> updated to Version 3, she bought one. After all, on Apple's Canadian >>> website, it was listed only as "current." Further, nothing on the box listed >>> the item as version 2, a version which many of us know to be unaccessible. >>>>> >>>>> Since yesterday was Saturday, I spoke to Apple Support concerning my >>> issue, as Customer Service was closed. When I spoke to the agent who took my >>> call, I was told that information concerning the fact that the 8 gig touch >>> had not been updated to version three was all over the website. I would like >>> to ask him where such info is listed on the Canadian site, but instead I'll >>> simply take my case to Customer Service on Monday. >>>>> >>>>> My advice to those who are interested in purchasing the touch? If you >>> need accessibility, purchase only version 3 of the Touch which comes in the >>> 32 and 64 gig models. Anything less will not talk to you. And, so far >>> anyway, it has been my experience that Apple sees such problems as Buyer >>> Beware. Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised to learn that my problem is >>> limited to one isolated agent. Meanwhile, when buying a touch, make sure to >>> get the right one. >>>>> >>>>> Larry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>>> >>>> Dane Trethowan >>>> grtd...@internode.on.net >>>> >>>> Mobile:/SMS +614571201 >>>> Twitter: Http://www.twitter.com/grtdane >>>> MSN: grtd...@dane-trethowan.net >>>> skype: grtdane12 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >> database 5350 (20100808) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
