Yes, that's true. But in most cases, they already had the audio response 
necessary. They already had good response before the made it 5KHZ.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> The frequency response on AM radio isn't that good to begin with, and it 
> is
> certainly not worth  spending the money to enhance the audio. The thinking
> here is to produce a signal that has a flat response and leave the other
> adjustments to the listener. However on FM it is a  different story.
> Audio processing can now be done remotely from the desktop, and can be
> adjusted to fit a number of different formats.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:33 PM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> Yes, an engineer told me that he set his station audio for 6KHZ audio and
>> he
>> runs an analog station which touts music. Go figure.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> Well, AM is almost as low quality sounding as the telephone but it has a
>>> different sort of sound to it. I suppose they need that bandwidth for 
>>> the
>>> IBOC. I thought normal was a 10K limit and now down to 5, that's a lot 
>>> of
>>> difference, in theory.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, they tell me that it cuts down on AM splatter. I am amazed that a
>>>> station here WMNI who touts their music is now using the 5khz audio. 
>>>> The
>>>> transmitters that do analog and IBOC have a setting for 5KHZ which is
>>>> what
>>>> their analog signal gives you when they are using IBOC. Engineers tell
>>>> me
>>>> that they are going to that because everyone else is and they say "it's
>>>> good
>>>> enough." There is no hearing advantage to the 5KHZ audio, just tech
>>>> advantages from what I can tell. AM engineers don't feel the need
>>>> anymore
>>>> to
>>>> sound as good as they can, they just seem to want to sound like 
>>>> everyone
>>>> else.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:57 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I wonder what is better about 5k AM?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 4:40 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob, you make a number of great points. I read something a few days
>>>>>> ago
>>>>>> where a broadcaster mentioned he lived in a small town and his local
>>>>>> station
>>>>>> was bought by you know who and they've gone all satellite talk with
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> little local programming. It was on AM and of course, had that Damn
>>>>>> 5khz
>>>>>> audio the AM engineers have  fallen in love with. He then decided to
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> XM.
>>>>>> Whey? As he put it, "whey not have the same thing, more variety, and
>>>>>> better
>>>>>> audio." True, this is only one but, one and one make two, which makes
>>>>>> four,
>>>>>> which makes 8, you get my point. These greedy short term thinking
>>>>>> broadcasters may not get it before it's too late, if it already 
>>>>>> isn't.
>>>>>> My
>>>>>> 11
>>>>>> year old grandson doesn't care about radio at all. I am aware of many
>>>>>> kids
>>>>>> his age who don't know the first thing about radio, but they know how
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> download music.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you will find very interesting.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:20 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is possible that they may have some live programming in prime
>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> would venture to say that in off hours it is 100% automation. When 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> raining cats and dogs and the announcer says that it is bright and
>>>>>>> sunny
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> know damn well that the station is on automatic pilot. Not good
>>>>>>> programming
>>>>>>> as far as I am  concerned. besides I probably have more songs on my
>>>>>>> ipod
>>>>>>> than most stations have on their play list.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:48 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, I think they are required to be auto for a certain period,
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> have DJ's. I know Kjac is one station of the Jac format that has
>>>>>>>> jocks
>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>> When I first tried listening to it though, it was all music.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:17 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I personally know of a number of stations in Canada that are
>>>>>>>>>operated
>>>>>>>>> completely by one person. Most of the work is contracted out in
>>>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> save money. Take for an example the Jack format. The format has
>>>>>>>>> become
>>>>>>>>> popular in both the  United States and Canada. The stations that
>>>>>>>>> bought
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> rights to the format cleaned house, and rely completely on Jack
>>>>>>>>> radio
>>>>>>>>> automation 24/7. Just load the computer and the program runs
>>>>>>>>> indefinitely.
>>>>>>>>> Why hire people when Jack can do the job. This of course does not
>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>> radio, but try to convince the owners of such stations that there
>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> a human element to overlook things. .
>>>>>>>>> I think that it was Lord Thompson that said "Owning a radio 
>>>>>>>>> station
>>>>>>>>> licence
>>>>>>>>> is like having a licence to print money."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:45 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But it seems that if radio stations are relying heavily on
>>>>>>>>>> computers
>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>> days, that they should be able to use accessible equipment so 
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> people can take advantage of a dream to get on the radio for the
>>>>>>>>>> world!
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:33 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That amount of money could easily buy an entire radio station
>>>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> building that it is housed in. Unfortunately the vast majority 
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> broadcasters are not willing to pay for the cost of adaptive
>>>>>>>>>>> equipment
>>>>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>>>>> are they willing to modify their equipment in order to provide
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> workplace
>>>>>>>>>>> accommodation. With the introduction of computers into the
>>>>>>>>>>> broadcast
>>>>>>>>>>> environment the industry has changed from a hands on user
>>>>>>>>>>> friendly
>>>>>>>>>>> workplace
>>>>>>>>>>> to one that in today's world looks more like a television studio
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> several monitors that have to be viewed constantly in order to
>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>>> that all operating functions are carried out flawlessly. This
>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> anything from: the regular play list, transmitter functions, 
>>>>>>>>>>> news
>>>>>>>>>>> feeds,
>>>>>>>>>>> station traffic and scheduling, and in many small markets the
>>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> news and commercials. If you really want to get a taste as to
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> radio
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> all about I would suggest visiting a radio station in your area
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> the staff, and from there you will get a feeling if this is the
>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>> business for you to be getting into. Another idea is to find a
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> profit community radio station that is run by volunteers.
>>>>>>>>>>> Volunteers
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> often take the time to show you the ropes of the industry. many
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>> small stations are  hands on operations without a lot of 
>>>>>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>> equipment
>>>>>>>>>>> and software programs. In most cases there is a small eight 
>>>>>>>>>>> input
>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>> board with a telephone hybrid and a couple of CD and cassette
>>>>>>>>>>> players.
>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>> in my opinion is a foot in the door as they say. An online radio
>>>>>>>>>>> station
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> signing up to perform in announcing function or host on ACB 
>>>>>>>>>>> radio
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>>>>> another option that should seriously be considered. The downside
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> broadcast industry is that most radio stations are automated and
>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately do not require staffing levels that we experienced
>>>>>>>>>>> five
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> ten
>>>>>>>>>>> years ago. The bottom line here is that you are going to have to
>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>> homework and figure out what exactly your strong points are and
>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> them. Do you feel that you would make a good announcer/host? Do
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>>>>> that you have the skills to write a intelligent news story and 
>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> research behind the story that you are researching? Are you
>>>>>>>>>>> capable
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> writing copy for commercials? How about your production skills.
>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> the production skills to do electronic editing on the fly? The
>>>>>>>>>>> broadcast
>>>>>>>>>>> industry is very demanding and expects most of us that have
>>>>>>>>>>> worked
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> industry to be multitask. Personally I have worked in the
>>>>>>>>>>> industry
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> over thirty years and got out of the business just about the 
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> computers and radio automation took over.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! $500,000 would buy an awful lot of equipment. I know of no
>>>>>>>>>>>> studio
>>>>>>>>>>>> worth that much in equipment alone unless one was talking about
>>>>>>>>>>>> buying
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>> actual building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:31 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: broadcasting question
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi list,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm interested in going into radio broadcasting. I know there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there who have done it, so I emailed a local school that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> teaches
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for broadcasting. here is the reply I received when I asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>> person attending.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brandon, sorry about the delay in getting back to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not a program that is suitable to the visually impaired.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cost of accomodating the expense of required equipment
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exceed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $500,000.00.  Not only the expense, but radio stations and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> corporate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership will never incur such an expense, nor is it feasible
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> studio suitable for this. I understand your disappointment,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> however,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be very honest with you regarding the reality of this. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> truly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well in all of your future endeavors and if there is anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> require
>>>>>>>>>>>>> further information on, please feel free to email or call me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once
>>>>>>>>>>>>> again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you for your interest in CSMB.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacquie Hammond
>>>>>>>>>>>>> President/CSMB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now what is this 500 thousand dollar cost all about? I would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> far as I know and I did visit a radio studio to use the mixing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they use windows software for the playlist editing, so it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple
>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter of creating scripts. I'm quite curious to see, has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clues?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brandon Hicks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: callto://reyuth
>>>>>>>>>>>>> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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