Well, AM is almost as low quality sounding as the telephone but it has a 
different sort of sound to it. I suppose they need that bandwidth for the 
IBOC. I thought normal was a 10K limit and now down to 5, that's a lot of 
difference, in theory.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> Well, they tell me that it cuts down on AM splatter. I am amazed that a
> station here WMNI who touts their music is now using the 5khz audio. The
> transmitters that do analog and IBOC have a setting for 5KHZ which is what
> their analog signal gives you when they are using IBOC. Engineers tell me
> that they are going to that because everyone else is and they say "it's 
> good
> enough." There is no hearing advantage to the 5KHZ audio, just tech
> advantages from what I can tell. AM engineers don't feel the need anymore 
> to
> sound as good as they can, they just seem to want to sound like everyone
> else.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>>I wonder what is better about 5k AM?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 4:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>> Bob, you make a number of great points. I read something a few days ago
>>> where a broadcaster mentioned he lived in a small town and his local
>>> station
>>> was bought by you know who and they've gone all satellite talk with very
>>> little local programming. It was on AM and of course, had that Damn 5khz
>>> audio the AM engineers have  fallen in love with. He then decided to get
>>> XM.
>>> Whey? As he put it, "whey not have the same thing, more variety, and
>>> better
>>> audio." True, this is only one but, one and one make two, which makes
>>> four,
>>> which makes 8, you get my point. These greedy short term thinking
>>> broadcasters may not get it before it's too late, if it already isn't. 
>>> My
>>> 11
>>> year old grandson doesn't care about radio at all. I am aware of many
>>> kids
>>> his age who don't know the first thing about radio, but they know how to
>>> download music.
>>>
>>> I think you will find very interesting.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
>>>> It is possible that they may have some live programming in prime time,
>>>> but
>>>> I
>>>> would venture to say that in off hours it is 100% automation. When it 
>>>> is
>>>> raining cats and dogs and the announcer says that it is bright and 
>>>> sunny
>>>> you
>>>> know damn well that the station is on automatic pilot. Not good
>>>> programming
>>>> as far as I am  concerned. besides I probably have more songs on my 
>>>> ipod
>>>> than most stations have on their play list.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:48 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I think they are required to be auto for a certain period, then
>>>>> they
>>>>> have DJ's. I know Kjac is one station of the Jac format that has jocks
>>>>> on.
>>>>> When I first tried listening to it though, it was all music.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:17 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I personally know of a number of stations in Canada that are operated
>>>>>> completely by one person. Most of the work is contracted out in order
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> save money. Take for an example the Jack format. The format has 
>>>>>> become
>>>>>> popular in both the  United States and Canada. The stations that
>>>>>> bought
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> rights to the format cleaned house, and rely completely on Jack radio
>>>>>> automation 24/7. Just load the computer and the program runs
>>>>>> indefinitely.
>>>>>> Why hire people when Jack can do the job. This of course does not 
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> radio, but try to convince the owners of such stations that there has
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> a human element to overlook things. .
>>>>>> I think that it was Lord Thompson that said "Owning a radio station
>>>>>> licence
>>>>>> is like having a licence to print money."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:45 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But it seems that if radio stations are relying heavily on computers
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> days, that they should be able to use accessible equipment so that
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> people can take advantage of a dream to get on the radio for the
>>>>>>> world!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:33 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That amount of money could easily buy an entire radio station
>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> building that it is housed in. Unfortunately the vast majority of
>>>>>>>> broadcasters are not willing to pay for the cost of adaptive
>>>>>>>> equipment
>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>> are they willing to modify their equipment in order to provide for
>>>>>>>> workplace
>>>>>>>> accommodation. With the introduction of computers into the 
>>>>>>>> broadcast
>>>>>>>> environment the industry has changed from a hands on user friendly
>>>>>>>> workplace
>>>>>>>> to one that in today's world looks more like a television studio
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> several monitors that have to be viewed constantly in order to make
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> that all operating functions are carried out flawlessly. This could
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> anything from: the regular play list, transmitter functions, news
>>>>>>>> feeds,
>>>>>>>> station traffic and scheduling, and in many small markets the
>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> news and commercials. If you really want to get a taste as to what
>>>>>>>> radio
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> all about I would suggest visiting a radio station in your area and
>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the staff, and from there you will get a feeling if this is the
>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>> business for you to be getting into. Another idea is to find a not
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> profit community radio station that is run by volunteers. 
>>>>>>>> Volunteers
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> often take the time to show you the ropes of the industry. many of
>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>> small stations are  hands on operations without a lot of computer
>>>>>>>> equipment
>>>>>>>> and software programs. In most cases there is a small eight input
>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>> board with a telephone hybrid and a couple of CD and cassette
>>>>>>>> players.
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> in my opinion is a foot in the door as they say. An online radio
>>>>>>>> station
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> signing up to perform in announcing function or host on ACB radio 
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>> another option that should seriously be considered. The downside of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> broadcast industry is that most radio stations are automated and
>>>>>>>> unfortunately do not require staffing levels that we experienced
>>>>>>>> five
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> ten
>>>>>>>> years ago. The bottom line here is that you are going to have to do
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> homework and figure out what exactly your strong points are and 
>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> them. Do you feel that you would make a good announcer/host? Do you
>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>> that you have the skills to write a intelligent news story and do
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> research behind the story that you are researching? Are you capable
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> writing copy for commercials? How about your production skills. Do
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> the production skills to do electronic editing on the fly? The
>>>>>>>> broadcast
>>>>>>>> industry is very demanding and expects most of us that have worked
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> industry to be multitask. Personally I have worked in the industry
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> over thirty years and got out of the business just about the time
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> computers and radio automation took over.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:00 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wow! $500,000 would buy an awful lot of equipment. I know of no
>>>>>>>>> studio
>>>>>>>>> worth that much in equipment alone unless one was talking about
>>>>>>>>> buying
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> actual building.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:31 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: broadcasting question
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hi list,
>>>>>>>>>> I'm interested in going into radio broadcasting. I know there are
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> there who have done it, so I emailed a local school that teaches 
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>> for broadcasting. here is the reply I received when I asked about
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>> person attending.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brandon, sorry about the delay in getting back to you.
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> is not a program that is suitable to the visually impaired. 
>>>>>>>>>> Mainly
>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>> the cost of accomodating the expense of required equipment would
>>>>>>>>>> exceed
>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>> $500,000.00.  Not only the expense, but radio stations and their
>>>>>>>>>> corporate
>>>>>>>>>> ownership will never incur such an expense, nor is it feasible to
>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> studio suitable for this. I understand your disappointment,
>>>>>>>>>> however,
>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>> to be very honest with you regarding the reality of this. I truly
>>>>>>>>>> wish
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> well in all of your future endeavors and if there is anything you
>>>>>>>>>> require
>>>>>>>>>> further information on, please feel free to email or call me.
>>>>>>>>>> Once
>>>>>>>>>> again,
>>>>>>>>>> thank you for your interest in CSMB.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jacquie Hammond
>>>>>>>>>> President/CSMB
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now what is this 500 thousand dollar cost all about? I would be
>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>> to,
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> far as I know and I did visit a radio studio to use the mixing
>>>>>>>>>> boards,
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> they use windows software for the playlist editing, so it would 
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> simple
>>>>>>>>>> matter of creating scripts. I'm quite curious to see, has anyone
>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> clues?
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Brandon Hicks
>>>>>>>>>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: callto://reyuth
>>>>>>>>>> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>
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