Yes, an engineer told me that he set his station audio for 6KHZ audio and he 
runs an analog station which touts music. Go figure.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: broadcasting question


> Well, AM is almost as low quality sounding as the telephone but it has a
> different sort of sound to it. I suppose they need that bandwidth for the
> IBOC. I thought normal was a 10K limit and now down to 5, that's a lot of
> difference, in theory.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>
>
>> Well, they tell me that it cuts down on AM splatter. I am amazed that a
>> station here WMNI who touts their music is now using the 5khz audio. The
>> transmitters that do analog and IBOC have a setting for 5KHZ which is 
>> what
>> their analog signal gives you when they are using IBOC. Engineers tell me
>> that they are going to that because everyone else is and they say "it's
>> good
>> enough." There is no hearing advantage to the 5KHZ audio, just tech
>> advantages from what I can tell. AM engineers don't feel the need anymore
>> to
>> sound as good as they can, they just seem to want to sound like everyone
>> else.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>
>>
>>>I wonder what is better about 5k AM?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 4:40 AM
>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bob, you make a number of great points. I read something a few days ago
>>>> where a broadcaster mentioned he lived in a small town and his local
>>>> station
>>>> was bought by you know who and they've gone all satellite talk with 
>>>> very
>>>> little local programming. It was on AM and of course, had that Damn 
>>>> 5khz
>>>> audio the AM engineers have  fallen in love with. He then decided to 
>>>> get
>>>> XM.
>>>> Whey? As he put it, "whey not have the same thing, more variety, and
>>>> better
>>>> audio." True, this is only one but, one and one make two, which makes
>>>> four,
>>>> which makes 8, you get my point. These greedy short term thinking
>>>> broadcasters may not get it before it's too late, if it already isn't.
>>>> My
>>>> 11
>>>> year old grandson doesn't care about radio at all. I am aware of many
>>>> kids
>>>> his age who don't know the first thing about radio, but they know how 
>>>> to
>>>> download music.
>>>>
>>>> I think you will find very interesting.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:20 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It is possible that they may have some live programming in prime time,
>>>>> but
>>>>> I
>>>>> would venture to say that in off hours it is 100% automation. When it
>>>>> is
>>>>> raining cats and dogs and the announcer says that it is bright and
>>>>> sunny
>>>>> you
>>>>> know damn well that the station is on automatic pilot. Not good
>>>>> programming
>>>>> as far as I am  concerned. besides I probably have more songs on my
>>>>> ipod
>>>>> than most stations have on their play list.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:48 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I think they are required to be auto for a certain period, then
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> have DJ's. I know Kjac is one station of the Jac format that has 
>>>>>> jocks
>>>>>> on.
>>>>>> When I first tried listening to it though, it was all music.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:17 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I personally know of a number of stations in Canada that are operated
>>>>>>> completely by one person. Most of the work is contracted out in 
>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> save money. Take for an example the Jack format. The format has
>>>>>>> become
>>>>>>> popular in both the  United States and Canada. The stations that
>>>>>>> bought
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> rights to the format cleaned house, and rely completely on Jack 
>>>>>>> radio
>>>>>>> automation 24/7. Just load the computer and the program runs
>>>>>>> indefinitely.
>>>>>>> Why hire people when Jack can do the job. This of course does not
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> radio, but try to convince the owners of such stations that there 
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> a human element to overlook things. .
>>>>>>> I think that it was Lord Thompson that said "Owning a radio station
>>>>>>> licence
>>>>>>> is like having a licence to print money."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:45 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But it seems that if radio stations are relying heavily on 
>>>>>>>> computers
>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>> days, that they should be able to use accessible equipment so that
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> people can take advantage of a dream to get on the radio for the
>>>>>>>> world!
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:33 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That amount of money could easily buy an entire radio station
>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> building that it is housed in. Unfortunately the vast majority of
>>>>>>>>> broadcasters are not willing to pay for the cost of adaptive
>>>>>>>>> equipment
>>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>>> are they willing to modify their equipment in order to provide for
>>>>>>>>> workplace
>>>>>>>>> accommodation. With the introduction of computers into the
>>>>>>>>> broadcast
>>>>>>>>> environment the industry has changed from a hands on user friendly
>>>>>>>>> workplace
>>>>>>>>> to one that in today's world looks more like a television studio
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> several monitors that have to be viewed constantly in order to 
>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>> that all operating functions are carried out flawlessly. This 
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> anything from: the regular play list, transmitter functions, news
>>>>>>>>> feeds,
>>>>>>>>> station traffic and scheduling, and in many small markets the
>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> news and commercials. If you really want to get a taste as to what
>>>>>>>>> radio
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> all about I would suggest visiting a radio station in your area 
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> the staff, and from there you will get a feeling if this is the
>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>> business for you to be getting into. Another idea is to find a not
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> profit community radio station that is run by volunteers.
>>>>>>>>> Volunteers
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> often take the time to show you the ropes of the industry. many of
>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>> small stations are  hands on operations without a lot of computer
>>>>>>>>> equipment
>>>>>>>>> and software programs. In most cases there is a small eight input
>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>> board with a telephone hybrid and a couple of CD and cassette
>>>>>>>>> players.
>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>> in my opinion is a foot in the door as they say. An online radio
>>>>>>>>> station
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> signing up to perform in announcing function or host on ACB radio
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>>> another option that should seriously be considered. The downside 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> broadcast industry is that most radio stations are automated and
>>>>>>>>> unfortunately do not require staffing levels that we experienced
>>>>>>>>> five
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> ten
>>>>>>>>> years ago. The bottom line here is that you are going to have to 
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> homework and figure out what exactly your strong points are and
>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> them. Do you feel that you would make a good announcer/host? Do 
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>>> that you have the skills to write a intelligent news story and do
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> research behind the story that you are researching? Are you 
>>>>>>>>> capable
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> writing copy for commercials? How about your production skills. Do
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> the production skills to do electronic editing on the fly? The
>>>>>>>>> broadcast
>>>>>>>>> industry is very demanding and expects most of us that have worked
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> industry to be multitask. Personally I have worked in the industry
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> over thirty years and got out of the business just about the time
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> computers and radio automation took over.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:00 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wow! $500,000 would buy an awful lot of equipment. I know of no
>>>>>>>>>> studio
>>>>>>>>>> worth that much in equipment alone unless one was talking about
>>>>>>>>>> buying
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> actual building.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:31 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: broadcasting question
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hi list,
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm interested in going into radio broadcasting. I know there 
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> there who have done it, so I emailed a local school that teaches
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>>> for broadcasting. here is the reply I received when I asked 
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>> person attending.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brandon, sorry about the delay in getting back to you.
>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> is not a program that is suitable to the visually impaired.
>>>>>>>>>>> Mainly
>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>> the cost of accomodating the expense of required equipment would
>>>>>>>>>>> exceed
>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>> $500,000.00.  Not only the expense, but radio stations and their
>>>>>>>>>>> corporate
>>>>>>>>>>> ownership will never incur such an expense, nor is it feasible 
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> studio suitable for this. I understand your disappointment,
>>>>>>>>>>> however,
>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>> to be very honest with you regarding the reality of this. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> truly
>>>>>>>>>>> wish
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> well in all of your future endeavors and if there is anything 
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> require
>>>>>>>>>>> further information on, please feel free to email or call me.
>>>>>>>>>>> Once
>>>>>>>>>>> again,
>>>>>>>>>>> thank you for your interest in CSMB.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacquie Hammond
>>>>>>>>>>> President/CSMB
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now what is this 500 thousand dollar cost all about? I would be
>>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>>> to,
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> far as I know and I did visit a radio studio to use the mixing
>>>>>>>>>>> boards,
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> they use windows software for the playlist editing, so it would
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> simple
>>>>>>>>>>> matter of creating scripts. I'm quite curious to see, has anyone
>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>> clues?
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> Brandon Hicks
>>>>>>>>>>> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: callto://reyuth
>>>>>>>>>>> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>>>
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