The reason why lots of am stations are tailoring their audio response to 5KHZ is to make room for the IBOC signal. IBOC is in band on channel digital audio broadcasting. The current hybrid form of IBOC being used in the united states takes up the sidebands above the 5KHZ bandwidth.
Dave Marthouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 3:00 PM Subject: Re: broadcasting question > Yes, that's true. But in most cases, they already had the audio response > necessary. They already had good response before the made it 5KHZ. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: broadcasting question > > > > The frequency response on AM radio isn't that good to begin with, and it > > is > > certainly not worth spending the money to enhance the audio. The thinking > > here is to produce a signal that has a flat response and leave the other > > adjustments to the listener. However on FM it is a different story. > > Audio processing can now be done remotely from the desktop, and can be > > adjusted to fit a number of different formats. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:33 PM > > Subject: Re: broadcasting question > > > > > >> Yes, an engineer told me that he set his station audio for 6KHZ audio and > >> he > >> runs an analog station which touts music. Go figure. > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:40 PM > >> Subject: Re: broadcasting question > >> > >> > >>> Well, AM is almost as low quality sounding as the telephone but it has a > >>> different sort of sound to it. I suppose they need that bandwidth for > >>> the > >>> IBOC. I thought normal was a 10K limit and now down to 5, that's a lot > >>> of > >>> difference, in theory. > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:08 AM > >>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question > >>> > >>> > >>>> Well, they tell me that it cuts down on AM splatter. I am amazed that a > >>>> station here WMNI who touts their music is now using the 5khz audio. > >>>> The > >>>> transmitters that do analog and IBOC have a setting for 5KHZ which is > >>>> what > >>>> their analog signal gives you when they are using IBOC. Engineers tell > >>>> me > >>>> that they are going to that because everyone else is and they say "it's > >>>> good > >>>> enough." There is no hearing advantage to the 5KHZ audio, just tech > >>>> advantages from what I can tell. AM engineers don't feel the need > >>>> anymore > >>>> to > >>>> sound as good as they can, they just seem to want to sound like > >>>> everyone > >>>> else. > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 10:57 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>I wonder what is better about 5k AM? > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 4:40 AM > >>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Bob, you make a number of great points. I read something a few days > >>>>>> ago > >>>>>> where a broadcaster mentioned he lived in a small town and his local > >>>>>> station > >>>>>> was bought by you know who and they've gone all satellite talk with > >>>>>> very > >>>>>> little local programming. It was on AM and of course, had that Damn > >>>>>> 5khz > >>>>>> audio the AM engineers have fallen in love with. He then decided to > >>>>>> get > >>>>>> XM. > >>>>>> Whey? As he put it, "whey not have the same thing, more variety, and > >>>>>> better > >>>>>> audio." True, this is only one but, one and one make two, which makes > >>>>>> four, > >>>>>> which makes 8, you get my point. These greedy short term thinking > >>>>>> broadcasters may not get it before it's too late, if it already > >>>>>> isn't. > >>>>>> My > >>>>>> 11 > >>>>>> year old grandson doesn't care about radio at all. I am aware of many > >>>>>> kids > >>>>>> his age who don't know the first thing about radio, but they know how > >>>>>> to > >>>>>> download music. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think you will find very interesting. > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:20 PM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> It is possible that they may have some live programming in prime > >>>>>>> time, > >>>>>>> but > >>>>>>> I > >>>>>>> would venture to say that in off hours it is 100% automation. When > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>> is > >>>>>>> raining cats and dogs and the announcer says that it is bright and > >>>>>>> sunny > >>>>>>> you > >>>>>>> know damn well that the station is on automatic pilot. Not good > >>>>>>> programming > >>>>>>> as far as I am concerned. besides I probably have more songs on my > >>>>>>> ipod > >>>>>>> than most stations have on their play list. > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:48 PM > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Well, I think they are required to be auto for a certain period, > >>>>>>>> then > >>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>> have DJ's. I know Kjac is one station of the Jac format that has > >>>>>>>> jocks > >>>>>>>> on. > >>>>>>>> When I first tried listening to it though, it was all music. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:17 PM > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>I personally know of a number of stations in Canada that are > >>>>>>>>>operated > >>>>>>>>> completely by one person. Most of the work is contracted out in > >>>>>>>>> order > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> save money. Take for an example the Jack format. The format has > >>>>>>>>> become > >>>>>>>>> popular in both the United States and Canada. The stations that > >>>>>>>>> bought > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> rights to the format cleaned house, and rely completely on Jack > >>>>>>>>> radio > >>>>>>>>> automation 24/7. Just load the computer and the program runs > >>>>>>>>> indefinitely. > >>>>>>>>> Why hire people when Jack can do the job. This of course does not > >>>>>>>>> make > >>>>>>>>> good > >>>>>>>>> radio, but try to convince the owners of such stations that there > >>>>>>>>> has > >>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>> a human element to overlook things. . > >>>>>>>>> I think that it was Lord Thompson that said "Owning a radio > >>>>>>>>> station > >>>>>>>>> licence > >>>>>>>>> is like having a licence to print money." > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 7:45 PM > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> But it seems that if radio stations are relying heavily on > >>>>>>>>>> computers > >>>>>>>>>> these > >>>>>>>>>> days, that they should be able to use accessible equipment so > >>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>> more > >>>>>>>>>> people can take advantage of a dream to get on the radio for the > >>>>>>>>>> world! > >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:33 PM > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> That amount of money could easily buy an entire radio station > >>>>>>>>>>> including > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> building that it is housed in. Unfortunately the vast majority > >>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>> broadcasters are not willing to pay for the cost of adaptive > >>>>>>>>>>> equipment > >>>>>>>>>>> nor > >>>>>>>>>>> are they willing to modify their equipment in order to provide > >>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>> workplace > >>>>>>>>>>> accommodation. With the introduction of computers into the > >>>>>>>>>>> broadcast > >>>>>>>>>>> environment the industry has changed from a hands on user > >>>>>>>>>>> friendly > >>>>>>>>>>> workplace > >>>>>>>>>>> to one that in today's world looks more like a television studio > >>>>>>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>>> several monitors that have to be viewed constantly in order to > >>>>>>>>>>> make > >>>>>>>>>>> sure > >>>>>>>>>>> that all operating functions are carried out flawlessly. This > >>>>>>>>>>> could > >>>>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>> anything from: the regular play list, transmitter functions, > >>>>>>>>>>> news > >>>>>>>>>>> feeds, > >>>>>>>>>>> station traffic and scheduling, and in many small markets the > >>>>>>>>>>> reading > >>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>> news and commercials. If you really want to get a taste as to > >>>>>>>>>>> what > >>>>>>>>>>> radio > >>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>> all about I would suggest visiting a radio station in your area > >>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>> talk > >>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> the staff, and from there you will get a feeling if this is the > >>>>>>>>>>> right > >>>>>>>>>>> business for you to be getting into. Another idea is to find a > >>>>>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>> profit community radio station that is run by volunteers. > >>>>>>>>>>> Volunteers > >>>>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>> often take the time to show you the ropes of the industry. many > >>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>> these > >>>>>>>>>>> small stations are hands on operations without a lot of > >>>>>>>>>>> computer > >>>>>>>>>>> equipment > >>>>>>>>>>> and software programs. In most cases there is a small eight > >>>>>>>>>>> input > >>>>>>>>>>> control > >>>>>>>>>>> board with a telephone hybrid and a couple of CD and cassette > >>>>>>>>>>> players. > >>>>>>>>>>> This > >>>>>>>>>>> in my opinion is a foot in the door as they say. An online radio > >>>>>>>>>>> station > >>>>>>>>>>> or > >>>>>>>>>>> signing up to perform in announcing function or host on ACB > >>>>>>>>>>> radio > >>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>> yet > >>>>>>>>>>> another option that should seriously be considered. The downside > >>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> broadcast industry is that most radio stations are automated and > >>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately do not require staffing levels that we experienced > >>>>>>>>>>> five > >>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> ten > >>>>>>>>>>> years ago. The bottom line here is that you are going to have to > >>>>>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>>>>> your > >>>>>>>>>>> homework and figure out what exactly your strong points are and > >>>>>>>>>>> work > >>>>>>>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>> them. Do you feel that you would make a good announcer/host? Do > >>>>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>>> feel > >>>>>>>>>>> that you have the skills to write a intelligent news story and > >>>>>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>>>>> all > >>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> research behind the story that you are researching? Are you > >>>>>>>>>>> capable > >>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>> writing copy for commercials? How about your production skills. > >>>>>>>>>>> Do > >>>>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>> the production skills to do electronic editing on the fly? The > >>>>>>>>>>> broadcast > >>>>>>>>>>> industry is very demanding and expects most of us that have > >>>>>>>>>>> worked > >>>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> industry to be multitask. Personally I have worked in the > >>>>>>>>>>> industry > >>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>> over thirty years and got out of the business just about the > >>>>>>>>>>> time > >>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>> computers and radio automation took over. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ---- > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:00 PM > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: broadcasting question > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! $500,000 would buy an awful lot of equipment. I know of no > >>>>>>>>>>>> studio > >>>>>>>>>>>> worth that much in equipment alone unless one was talking about > >>>>>>>>>>>> buying > >>>>>>>>>>>> an > >>>>>>>>>>>> actual building. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:31 PM > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: broadcasting question > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hi list, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm interested in going into radio broadcasting. I know there > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>>>> people > >>>>>>>>>>>>> out > >>>>>>>>>>>>> there who have done it, so I emailed a local school that > >>>>>>>>>>>>> teaches > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> course > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for broadcasting. here is the reply I received when I asked > >>>>>>>>>>>>> about > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> blind > >>>>>>>>>>>>> person attending. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brandon, sorry about the delay in getting back to you. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately > >>>>>>>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is not a program that is suitable to the visually impaired. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mainly > >>>>>>>>>>>>> because > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the cost of accomodating the expense of required equipment > >>>>>>>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>>>>>>> exceed > >>>>>>>>>>>>> over > >>>>>>>>>>>>> $500,000.00. Not only the expense, but radio stations and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> their > >>>>>>>>>>>>> corporate > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership will never incur such an expense, nor is it feasible > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> create > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> studio suitable for this. I understand your disappointment, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> however, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be very honest with you regarding the reality of this. I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> truly > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wish > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>>>>> well in all of your future endeavors and if there is anything > >>>>>>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>>>>> require > >>>>>>>>>>>>> further information on, please feel free to email or call me. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Once > >>>>>>>>>>>>> again, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you for your interest in CSMB. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacquie Hammond > >>>>>>>>>>>>> President/CSMB > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now what is this 500 thousand dollar cost all about? I would > >>>>>>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>>> able > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>>>> far as I know and I did visit a radio studio to use the mixing > >>>>>>>>>>>>> boards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> they use windows software for the playlist editing, so it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> simple > >>>>>>>>>>>>> matter of creating scripts. 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