Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68

 

These I believe are issues, please check and comment.

 

Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio &
Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth
participant joins the meeting 

 

1)      When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the
"Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio" column for either of the two
other participants, the text that hovers is "Allow user to give
exclusive audio", but after they have been granted rights to give
exclusive audio, if you hover over the green circled tick, then the text
says "User is Moderator, he can do anything.", where as it would be more
correct if the hover text said "Remove ability to give exclusive audio",
like the "Remove ability to draw on the whiteboard".  The "Allow/Deny
right to Remote Control Screen" ticks also has the same issue (they
display "User is Moderator, he can do anything.").   In fact in this
scenario the statement "User is Moderator, he can do anything." is
incorrect as this user is not a moderator.



2)      I would have expected that giving users the "Allow user to give
exclusive audio" would allow users to control the who currently has
exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot
control the use of "exclusive audio" (unless they are made moderators).



3)      It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking the
centre of  that persons video window, but if a person is set to "Audio
only", then they don't have a video window so there is no way to grant
them "exclusive audio".  Would it not be better to have a way to control
exclusive audio from the "Users" list?  Why not use the round green
(user speaks) icon.  (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth
user to the meeting did get a third, video like window where they could
control the "exclusive audio" for the person who was set to "audio
only".  But these windows did not appear for the moderator or the other
two who were the first to join.



4)      In the "Users" list there is a round green icon like the green
icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, it
does not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it
is supposed to?  If it is not, then what does it do?  The hover text
says "User speaks".



5)      when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video),
they had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending
video) and one other window like a video window but without any picture
as the name label of that window indicated that it was the other user
who was sending audio only.  This fourth user, when made a moderator
could control who had "exclusive audio", but only when a moderator. The
other three users still had no way to give the "audio only" user,
"exclusive audio".



6)      I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and I
am amazed, I had no echo.  I will try to test this again,  another day.
Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.

 

 

Thanks,

 

George Kirkham

 

IT Manager

Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) 

NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia

T: (02) 6120 1600

F: (02) 6273 7181

E: gkirk...@co2crc.com.au, 

W: www.co2crc.com.au

 

 

From: brian mullan [mailto:bmullan.m...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM
To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>

 

Sergey

I think you meant to say if you run service on port =< 1024 you need
root privilages



On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar
<sergey.kob...@itcraft.org> wrote:

On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root
users can run services on ports >1024.

http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-
below-1024/ for example...

On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:

Mahmut,

Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
port 80 ? If you don't mind sharing, what is your server's OS?, and what
would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.

/etc/init.d/red5

start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
$RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
2>/dev/null &

/usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties

# HTTP

http.host=0.0.0.0

http.port=80

https.port=8443

http.URIEncoding=UTF-8

/usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml

<red5httpport>80</red5httpport>

I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to
http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
the server.

I am getting no error information from the log files.

When I do netstat -anp | grep java

tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin

unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
/tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb

tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java

tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java

However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for "netstat
-anp | grep java"

/etc/init.d/red5

start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
--background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &

tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin

unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
/tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb

tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java

tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java

tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java

tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java

tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java

tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java

unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java

If I

Thanks,

George Kirkham

IT Manager

Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)

NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia

T: (02) 6120 1600

F: (02) 6273 7181

E: gkirk...@co2crc.com.au <mailto:gkirk...@co2crc.com.au>,

W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>

*From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:teker.mah...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
*To:* openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>

Hi George,

I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings
in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.

Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.

Regards,


_Mahmut TEKER

On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:

Stephen,

The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
installed), and nothing else on that port.

I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings
as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.

One thing I could try is to create a full account called "openmeetings"
which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
not just a dummy account.

I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.

If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
successfully running under 'nobody'.

Thanks,

George Kirkham

IT Manager

Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)

NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia

T: (02) 6120 1600

F: (02) 6273 7181

E: gkirk...@co2crc.com.au <mailto:gkirk...@co2crc.com.au>,

W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>

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*Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>

You aren't using Apache on the new Debian server are you?

If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.

To aid in finding the problem, If you go here

/usr/lib/red5

Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh

Then start it using the debug mode

./red5-debug.sh

This will tell you more about why its failing to start.

Cheers

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*From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirk...@co2crc.com.au]
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*Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>

Hi,

Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.

I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I
have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.

Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the
issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
entire "red5" folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
and it will work on port 80.

I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
resolved it.

Thanks,

George Kirkham

IT Manager

Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)

NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia

T: (02) 6120 1600

F: (02) 6273 7181

E: gkirk...@co2crc.com.au <mailto:gkirk...@co2crc.com.au>,

W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>

*From:*George Kirkham [mailto:gkirk...@co2crc.com.au]
*Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
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<mailto:openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org>
*Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files

Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.

George Kirkham

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*Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files

Hi George,

What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
=> It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.

The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
=> Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
translation.

Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
if so, please let me know.
=> If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
would actually enter something like this:

&lt;br/&gt;

(this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")


Sebastian

2012/5/6 George Kirkham <gkirk...@co2crc.com.au
<mailto:gkirk...@co2crc.com.au>>

Hi,

What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
?

I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
(undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
fill up other language files the english one. However all language files
should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."

What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
follow, if so, please let me know.

I noticed that the Japanese file has
<string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
<value>Ms.</value>
</string>


Thanks,

George Kirkham




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