Hi,
And thinking about this further, there may be two ways to solve the issue of everyone seeing a zoomed in view of a word document; 1) By default Meeting Participants should be able to set zoom but not scroll. 2) When the Moderator can run off "Full-Fit" and then set a zoom, it does this to everyone's Whiteboard, just as when the Moderator scrolls it scrolls everyone's screen. And the Moderator to controls everyone's screens as they can now? It has occurred to me that if meeting attendees are given access to the zoom by default, then they should not have access to the scroll bars. Only allow the Moderator to control the scrolling. Because Meeting participants computer's can have different screen resolutions, there is no perfect solution, but I am now liking solution 2 over solution 1, but either would work. Please think about this and post back with comments. I am currently in a meeting with 5 people sharing a Word document, and we all needed to zoom the document and the moderator moves us to the right page and scrolls to the right place in the page, but some meeting participants cannot stop themselves in altering the scroll. Thanks, George Kirkham From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirk...@co2crc.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 4:35 PM To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Allowing Users to adjust the magnification of the Whiteboard Dušan, both of these features sound worthwhile. Thanks, George Kirkham From: Dušan Stloukal [mailto:dusan.stlou...@devportal.eu] Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 4:26 PM To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Allowing Users to adjust the magnification of the Whiteboard Hi, I think, that individual changing of the zoom as the default, without permission, is the key feature which we are missing. It was the very first thing which we was asked by our customers to patch (but we don't have the patch so far). The next (imo useful) feature, which I've seen at presentation of MS Lync, was the ability to each participiant scroll through his whiteboard and after clicking on the "sync" button, the whiteboard is scrolled to the presenter's place. But the "sync" button is available only when the participiant do his own scrolling. In other cases, his whiteboard is synced with the presenter immediately. Thanks Dusan On 05/10/2012 04:42 AM, George Kirkham wrote: Hi, How much work is involved in allowing meeting participants access to adjust the magnification (zoom) of the Whiteboard without having to have the rights to draw on the Whiteboard ? When working with portrait documents, like Word documents, it is important to zoom into the document and then scroll down the document while people in the meeting discuss the various paragraphs (as a Word page contains more text that can be displayed to the screen/whiteboard and still be readable in "Full-Fit"). I like it when we get all the meeting participants to zoom the document so that the document text is a good readable size, and then the presenter can scroll the document, and it scrolls on everyone's screens so they all follow where the discussion is up to. But currently to do this we have to; 1) give them "Draw on the Whiteboard" rights, and 2) ask them to zoom their screens and 3) then remove "Draw on the Whiteboard" rights (so they don't accidently change pages, or draw on the screen when we don't want them to) Could meeting participants either a) have access to the Full-Fit and zoom as standard, or b) can this be controlled separately by itself, and not bundled with Draw on the Whiteboard rights. I would ask other people to comment whether this would be useful for them also ? or maybe there are good reasons not to change this functionality? Thanks, George Kirkham IT Manager From: George Kirkham [mailto:gkirk...@co2crc.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:02 PM To: openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: exclusive audio in Build #68 Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68 These I believe are issues, please check and comment. Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio & Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth participant joins the meeting 1) When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the "Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio" column for either of the two other participants, the text that hovers is "Allow user to give exclusive audio", but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive audio, if you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says "User is Moderator, he can do anything.", where as it would be more correct if the hover text said "Remove ability to give exclusive audio", like the "Remove ability to draw on the whiteboard". The "Allow/Deny right to Remote Control Screen" ticks also has the same issue (they display "User is Moderator, he can do anything."). In fact in this scenario the statement "User is Moderator, he can do anything." is incorrect as this user is not a moderator. 2) I would have expected that giving users the "Allow user to give exclusive audio" would allow users to control the who currently has exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot control the use of "exclusive audio" (unless they are made moderators). 3) It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking the centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to "Audio only", then they don't have a video window so there is no way to grant them "exclusive audio". Would it not be better to have a way to control exclusive audio from the "Users" list? Why not use the round green (user speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to the meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the "exclusive audio" for the person who was set to "audio only". But these windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the first to join. 4) In the "Users" list there is a round green icon like the green icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, it does not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it is supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says "User speaks". 5) when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video), they had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending video) and one other window like a video window but without any picture as the name label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was sending audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator could control who had "exclusive audio", but only when a moderator. The other three users still had no way to give the "audio only" user, "exclusive audio". 6) I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and I am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another day. Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings. Thanks, George Kirkham IT Manager
