As a graduate 23k plus seems standard for any role On 24 Jul 2014 13:10, "Chris Seaton" <[email protected]> wrote:
> To put £18k as a starting salary for a graduate into perspective, it's at > the very bottom end according to HESCU ( > http://www.graduates.co.uk/graduate-starting-salaries-in-2013-14/). A > typical technical internship in the US - so someone who hasn't even > finished university yet - pays at least twice that. It's really only a few > thousand above the minimum wage at £13k. > > If it's correct, then I'm shocked. I have theology and classics student > friends I graduated with who earned 4x compared to that on their first job > five years ago. What happened to STEM and tech being the way to go for > graduates? > > > On 24 July 2014 12:55, Fred Thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I didn't want to get involved in this really, but after seeing Will's >> tweet I can't resist. >> >> I only have one question: >> Where were all you mid-level developers wanting around 30k for a rails >> dev position in Manchester about 6 months ago!? >> I offered a position, and mentioned it to the group, and couldn't get a >> bite! >> >> Anyways, I think Will is in around the correct level, at least as an >> employer I believe it to be true, but we don't know what the agency takes! >> >> >> On Thursday, 24 July 2014 12:42:28 UTC+1, Will Jessop wrote: >> >>> On 24 July 2014 12:25, Adam Holt <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Will: There is a difference between what wages should be, and what is >>> being >>> > offered by the majority of companies in manchester. >>> >>> Yep, I'm aware of that. >>> >>> > There are some outliers, but if you’re talking majority of jobs are >>> going to >>> > be agency jobs, you’re not really going to get much more than that for >>> entry >>> > level, unfortunately. I’d like to see where you think these 35k entry >>> level >>> > jobs are in manchester? >>> >>> The other Adam said entry -> mid, I just read mid. >>> >>> For comparison my first job (January 2000*) was tech support and I was >>> on 18k within 3 months. That's 14 years ago. That might be what >>> agencies in Manchester are oferring, but it's still bollocks. At that >>> sort of level you should consider freelancing, contracting or remote >>> work. >>> >>> Will. >>> >>> * This was in London, but London wages aren't *that* much more for a >>> lot of jobs. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "NWRUG" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nwrug-members. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NWRUG" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nwrug-members. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NWRUG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nwrug-members. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
