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On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Fred Thompson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I didn't want to get involved in this really, but after seeing Will's
> tweet I can't resist.
>
> I only have one question:
> Where were all you mid-level developers wanting around 30k for a rails dev
> position in Manchester about 6 months ago!?
> I offered a position, and mentioned it to the group, and couldn't get a
> bite!
>
> Anyways, I think Will is in around the correct level, at least as an
> employer I believe it to be true, but we don't know what the agency takes!
>
>
> On Thursday, 24 July 2014 12:42:28 UTC+1, Will Jessop wrote:
>
>> On 24 July 2014 12:25, Adam Holt <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Will: There is a difference between what wages should be, and what is
>> being
>> > offered by the majority of companies in manchester.
>>
>> Yep, I'm aware of that.
>>
>> > There are some outliers, but if you’re talking majority of jobs are
>> going to
>> > be agency jobs, you’re not really going to get much more than that for
>> entry
>> > level, unfortunately. I’d like to see where you think these 35k entry
>> level
>> > jobs are in manchester?
>>
>> The other Adam said entry -> mid, I just read mid.
>>
>> For comparison my first job (January 2000*) was tech support and I was
>> on 18k within 3 months. That's 14 years ago. That might be what
>> agencies in Manchester are oferring, but it's still bollocks. At that
>> sort of level you should consider freelancing, contracting or remote
>> work.
>>
>> Will.
>>
>> * This was in London, but London wages aren't *that* much more for a
>> lot of jobs.
>>
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