Mixed residential (ages 25 - 75, 1 - 6 people per unit), group who worked 
together to keep costs down.  Works well for them.  Friday nights we get to 
about 85% utilization (Netflix), other than that, usually sits between 25 - 45%

        paul

> On Apr 2, 2019, at 5:44 PM, Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote:
> 
> I would say this is perhaps atypical but may depend on the customer type(s).
> 
> If they’re residential and use OTT data then sure.  If it’s SMB you’re likely 
> in better shape.
> 
> - Jared
> 
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Paul Nash <p...@nashnetworks.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> FWIW, I have a 250 subscribers sitting on a 100M fiber into Torix.  I have 
>> had no complains about speed in 4 1/2 years.  I have been planning to bump 
>> them to 1G for the last 4 years, but there is currently no economic 
>> justification.
>> 
>>      paul
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Louie Lee via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Certainly.
>>> 
>>> Projecting demand is one thing. Figuring out what to buy for your backbone, 
>>> edge (uplink & peer), and colo (for CDN caches too!), for which 
>>> scale+growth is quite another.
>>> 
>>> And yeah, Jim, overall, things have stayed the same. There are just the 
>>> nuances added with caches, gaming, OTT streaming, some IoT (like always-on 
>>> home security cams) plus better tools now for network management and 
>>> network analysis.
>>> 
>>> Louie
>>> Google Fiber.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 12:00 PM Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 2:35 PM, jim deleskie <deles...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> +1 on this. its been more than 10 years since I've been responsible for a 
>>>> broadband network but have friends that still play in that world and do 
>>>> some very good work on making sure their models are very well managed, 
>>>> with more math than I ever bothered with, That being said, If had used the 
>>>> methods I'd had used back in the 90's they would have fully predicted per 
>>>> sub growth including all the FB/YoutubeNetflix traffic we have today. The 
>>>> "rapid" growth we say in the 90's and the 2000' and even this decade are 
>>>> all magically the same curve, we'd just further up the incline, the 
>>>> question is will it continue another 10+ years, where the growth rate is 
>>>> nearing straight up :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think sometimes folks have the challenge with how to deal with aggregate 
>>> scale and growth vs what happens in a pure linear model with subscribers.
>>> 
>>> The first 75 users look a lot different than the next 900.  You get 
>>> different population scale and average usage.
>>> 
>>> I could roughly estimate some high numbers for population of earth internet 
>>> usage at peak for maximum, but in most cases if you have a 1G connection 
>>> you can support 500-800 subscribers these days.  Ideally you can get a 10G 
>>> link for a reasonable price.  Your scale looks different as well as you can 
>>> work with “the content guys” once you get far enough.
>>> 
>>> Thursdays are still the peak because date night is still generally Friday.
>>> 
>>> - Jared
> 

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