FWIW, I have a 250 subscribers sitting on a 100M fiber into Torix.  I have had 
no complains about speed in 4 1/2 years.  I have been planning to bump them to 
1G for the last 4 years, but there is currently no economic justification.

        paul


> On Apr 2, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Louie Lee via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
> 
> Certainly.
> 
> Projecting demand is one thing. Figuring out what to buy for your backbone, 
> edge (uplink & peer), and colo (for CDN caches too!), for which scale+growth 
> is quite another.
> 
> And yeah, Jim, overall, things have stayed the same. There are just the 
> nuances added with caches, gaming, OTT streaming, some IoT (like always-on 
> home security cams) plus better tools now for network management and network 
> analysis.
> 
> Louie
> Google Fiber.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 12:00 PM Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Apr 2, 2019, at 2:35 PM, jim deleskie <deles...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > +1 on this. its been more than 10 years since I've been responsible for a 
> > broadband network but have friends that still play in that world and do 
> > some very good work on making sure their models are very well managed, with 
> > more math than I ever bothered with, That being said, If had used the 
> > methods I'd had used back in the 90's they would have fully predicted per 
> > sub growth including all the FB/YoutubeNetflix traffic we have today. The 
> > "rapid" growth we say in the 90's and the 2000' and even this decade are 
> > all magically the same curve, we'd just further up the incline, the 
> > question is will it continue another 10+ years, where the growth rate is 
> > nearing straight up :)
> 
> 
> I think sometimes folks have the challenge with how to deal with aggregate 
> scale and growth vs what happens in a pure linear model with subscribers.
> 
> The first 75 users look a lot different than the next 900.  You get different 
> population scale and average usage.
> 
> I could roughly estimate some high numbers for population of earth internet 
> usage at peak for maximum, but in most cases if you have a 1G connection you 
> can support 500-800 subscribers these days.  Ideally you can get a 10G link 
> for a reasonable price.  Your scale looks different as well as you can work 
> with “the content guys” once you get far enough.
> 
> Thursdays are still the peak because date night is still generally Friday.
> 
> - Jared

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