> -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Barnes [mailto:richard.bar...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:44 AM > To: Tony Hain > Cc: Vincent Hoffman; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: ipv4's last graph > > Note that the ARIN, APNIC, and RIPE lines should all basically level > out to asymptotes after they hit 1 /8 left, due to the "soft run out" > policies in place [1][2][3]. Either that, or just consider arriving > at 1 /8 left as depletion.
The /8 that applies to those policies has not been allocated yet ... ask again tomorrow. Would it make more sense to mark the graph at 1 with an asterisk, or just leave those out of this graph all together? If you care about how well the policy is managing the end of the pool, then marking 1 is the right thing, while if you only care about when 'old policy' stops then it makes more sense to just leave them off. Tony > > Geoff: How are your graphs dealing with these policies? > > [1] <https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four10> > [2] <http://www.apnic.net/policy/add-manage-policy#9.10.1> > [3] <http://ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2010-02.html> > > > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Tony Hain <alh-i...@tndh.net> wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Vincent Hoffman [mailto:jh...@unsane.co.uk] > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:44 AM > >> To: nanog@nanog.org > >> Subject: Re: ipv4's last graph > >> > >> On 02/02/2011 17:22, Matthew Petach wrote: > >> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Tony Hain <alh-i...@tndh.net> > wrote: > >> >> So in the interest of 'second opinions never hurt', and I just > can't > >> get my > >> >> head around "APnic sitting at 3 /8's, burning 2.3 /8's in the > last 2 > >> months > >> >> and the idea of a 50% probability that their exhaustion event > occurs > >> Aug. > >> >> 2011", here are a couple other graphs to consider. > >> >> http://www.tndh.net/~tony/ietf/IPv4-rir-pools.pdf > >> >> http://www.tndh.net/~tony/ietf/IPv4-rir-pools-zoom.pdf > >> >> > >> >> Tony > >> > Two things: > >> > > >> > 1) you'll get better uptake of your graph if it's visible as a > simple > >> > image, rather than requiring a PDF download. :/ > >> Not wishing to advertise google but > >> > >> > http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.tndh.net/~tony/ietf/IPv4- > >> rir-pools.pdf > >> and > >> > http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.tndh.net/~tony/ietf/IPv4- > >> rir-pools-zoom.pdf > >> > >> > >> works for me without needing to download a pdf viewer > > > > For some reason that viewer didn't work here, so I added jpg's to the > site. > > http://www.tndh.net/~tony/ietf/IPv4-rir-pools.jpg > > http://www.tndh.net/~tony/ietf/IPv4-rir-pools-zoom.jpg > > > > > >> > >> Vince > >> > >> > >> > >> > 2) labelling the Y axis would help; I'm not sure what the scale > >> > of 1-8 represents, unless it's perhaps the number of slices of > >> > pizza consumed per staff member per address allocation request? > > > > I thought about leaving it off completely, but figured I would be > asked for > > scale. It is /8's remaining until they drop into their 'last > allocation' > > policy. I will see if I can figure out how to fit that into something > > readable. > > > > > >> > > >> > But I do agree with what seems to be your driving message, which > >> > is that Geoff could potentially be considered "optimistic". ^_^; > > > > Geoff has always been the optimist ... ;0 > > > > > >> > > >> > Matt > > > > > > > >
