That seems like a reasonable proposal. NANOG-OffTopic, NANOG-Discuss, 
NANOG-BizDev, NANOG-xyz, something (more more than one something). 


The other lists still wouldn't allow promotion, but you could make inquiries 
and discuss things that don't involve enable or configure. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> 
To: "Matthew Petach" <mpet...@netflight.com> 
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org>, adm...@nanog.org 
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021 6:43:41 PM 
Subject: Re: Perhaps it's time to think about enhancements to the NANOG 
list...? 



Perhaps the sales, marketing and 'business development' people who've never 
typed "enable" or "configure" into a router a single day in their lives might 
be better served with a dedicated list that is mission focused on bizdev, and 
not operational issues. 







On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 3:29 PM Matthew Petach < mpet...@netflight.com > wrote: 








On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:37 AM Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote: 

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CC back to the mailing list for visibility, since I ate the CC list. 


On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 1:31 PM Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote: 

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Rod- 


Please refer to the usage guidelines found here. 
https://nanog.org/resources/usage-guidelines/ 


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14. Posts that encourage or facilitate an agreement about the following 
subjects are inappropriate: prices, discounts, or terms or conditions of sale; 
salaries; benefits, profits, profit margins, or cost data; market shares, sales 
territories, or markets; allocation of customers or territories; or selection, 
rejection, or termination of customers or suppliers. 




I would tend to agree that while most of your posts to the list are within the 
guidelines, there have been occasions where a reasonable person could think you 
might be skirting the line a bit. In this case : 


- Your company works as a broker to procure capacity for others. 
- You sent an email to the list that wording wise would be exactly the same as 
many of us might send to someone they were looking for capacity from. 


I think most would agree this is pretty clearly against both the usage 
guidelines and the spirit of what this mailing list is about. 


I would also like to remind you that this list is administered by the NANOG 
organization. You have no authority to tell others to 'cease and desist', and 
insult someone as 'underemployed' is also not well tolerated here. 


I have looped in the list admins here. It would probably be a good idea to 
refrain from future messages that are clearly commercial in nature, or that 
contain unnecessary insults. 
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If only we had some way to segregate out different topics 
of interest or disinterest, so that people who weren't interested 
in questions about bandwidth availability could unsubscribe 
from those topics, and only subscribe to the topics that *did* 
interest them... 


#AFewDaysTooEarly 


^_^;; 


Matt 



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