On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:21:22PM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 09:49:52AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:30:42AM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> > > The same place in a mbox hierarchy shows me the size of the maibox and
> > > the date of the last change.
> > 
> > You're looking at this all wrong.  It's purely a side effect of how
> > the mailbox abstraction is represented: you get that only because they
> > just happen to be files--exactly what the file browser was meant to
> > handle.
> > 
> "I'm" a user! :-)  I want the information I used to get.  That it's
> "purely a side effect" of some technical change is unipoortant to the
> user.  Yes, with my techie hat on I understand why it is, but I can
> also see that there are ways to get the information I want, albeit
> with some more code.

It's not just more code, it's expensive code, at least in some cases.
Without reviewing the messages to get the exact details, I think some
of what you want is doable, and some is really not.

Some of it really isn't Mutt's purview, per se--it's your MDA's
purview.  I can't say why Christian gets dates and proper sorting on
his mail folder directories and you're not; that would take some
investigation.  I could guess that it might be that maildir-aware MDAs
update the utimes on the folder directory when it delivers a file...
and even if it's not that, you could do that in your MDA with
os.utime(), which should force the issue.

Recursively calculating the space used by the mail folder, on the
other hand... just no. =8^)

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