* Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-16-02 11:32]:
> Hi,
>
> * Patrick [05/16/02 17:29:54 CEST] wrote:
> > * Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-16-02 09:04]:
> > > * David T-G [05/16/02 15:47:11 CEST] wrote:
> > > > If you just want to relay instead of send, well, that's probably tough;
> > > > that's what spammers do, and nobody likes that. You have a Linux box
> > > > with a capable sendmail; why not just send your mail?
>
> > > ... because there're blacklist available which lots of MTAs
> > > may check a sender against. In most cases mails from dial-up
> > > lines are blocked; as a side effect the majority of people
> > > forced to use a relay are innocent and just want to deliver
> > > simple mail directly. Out there are those few bad apples which
> > > run open relays so that there's much more spam going through
> > > those channels instead of dial-up lines with direct delivery.
>
> > I have sent mail directly for ~3 years from dial-up and more recently
> > >from cable-access and the ONLY time I have had a problem with my posts
> > being accepted was when the from_envelope did not match the "from"
> > address. I made the from_envelope match the "from" address and have
> > had no more rejections.
>
> That's another kind of check. Some mail servers also check if
> the IP you try to connect from matches the DNS name of the
> HELO/EHLO command and vise versa. SMTP only requires any
> destination to accept any mail; futher delivery process may be
> blocked by any reason.
>
> But the point is that not all dial-up connections are in the
> common blacklists while lots of them are. If you feel
> confident, try to deliver an email directly to my university's
> account (in From: header). A few mails I receive are simply
> forwards of bounces containing the original mail which was
> rejected.
Well, I'm not necessairly confident, but GAME. Does it work?? I'll
only know if it bounces back to me (which may not happen) or you reply.
> > AND, both my dial-up and cable providers had smtp accounts available
> > for sending mail. Why not set sendmail to use your provider's smtp
> > account??
>
> I have to. Just because I'm too lazy to first try direct
> delivery and later via relay if I received a failure notice.
I think that with SuSE direct delivery is the easiest. It did not
require any setup other than NOT setting mail to an smtp.xxxx.xxx host.
ps. I use postfix, not sendmail.
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Patrick Shanahan
Registered Linux User #207535
@ http://counter.li.org
