On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 07:38:22PM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 02:16:19AM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
kevin's hostility is subtle and impersonal, so he can express it while being perfectly soft-spoken. but the message *does* arrive, loud and clear. it says "i hate it when you get too creative".

I'm not really sure what to say in response to vaguely referenced, supposed mind-reading, Oswald.

i'm not doing any mind-reading, i'm telling you what impression i gathered after reading a lot of your track record. while it's somewhat unlikely that i'd actively contribute to mutt anytime soon anyway, at this point i'd be particularly hesitant - i'm a radical who likes to refactor and rewrite things into shape (usually before adding a feature), and you repeatedly made it obvious that this is not welcome.

I don't see a lot of evidence of what you're preaching from the isync commit log,

i'm not sure what you were looking for, but you should definitely find a significant number of commits that would be considered wanton by mutt standards _as presented on the list_ (i haven't done any systematic reading of mutt's git log, so i don't know what you're actually doing).

and I highly doubt being the isync maintainer is comparable in any way.

i wouldn't know why, other than being much lower-traffic.

but that's besides the point anyway, as i didn't claim that i'm a good community builder myself (i actually hinted at the opposite). my benchmark is a number of other projects i'm monitoring.

So chill, yourself, with the character attacks

being hostile towards something as abstract as "touching too much code" isn't a character flaw (per se), so this obviously wasn't a character attack, either. that you perceive it this way suggests that there is a strong disconnect between my perception and how you see yourself, and you may want to take that into account in the future - just in case it isn't just me.

i think it would be useful if rich shared his perspective explicitly, being a long-time follower and potential source of sustained manpower.

greetings

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