On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 08:34:08PM -0600, Jeremy Mann wrote:
> 
> I still don't see what the big hype is about PVRs.

Best thing since TV.  :-)

> First of all, you can't
> get the MPEG recorded material OFF the PVR without first capturing from
> its own outputs.

You are right if you are talking about a "store bought" PVR.  You have
to understand that in most cases on forums like this one, when people
talk PVR they are talking about an "Open" version of what you can buy
(i.e. Tivo, Replay).  These are usually build-it-yourself PVRs, which
is why, after-all, some of us are here dicussing this stuff.

> So you still need a VCR or Hauppage or DC10+ to capture
> AGAIN what you captured on the PVR.

No.  My PVR (that I built) captures MPEG1 currently.  I want to move
that up to MPEG2 (via MJPEG if necessary).  I can access the files on
my PVR from any of the computers in the house here.  Soon the bedroom
computer will have a DH G400 in it so that we can watch programs the
PVR recorded on the TV in the bedroom, without having to watch the 17~
monitor.

> Three wasted steps with what you could
> do with 1 DC10+. Am I the only one who sees this?

Yeah, likely you are because you are not opening up your mind to what
a PVR is and could be, and are just accepting what the media companies
are calling a PVR.

> Even if you COULD get it off the PVR, you have a full hour or two of
> commercial movies or TV episodes that you still need to edit.

Naw.  Too much work.  MPlayer makes good of the work of skipping
commercials by being able to program custom skip intervals on your
remote.  I have 30 seconds forward and back and 1 seconds forward and
back.

> Combine the
> getting it OFF the PVR, editing, reencoding to MPEG, its easier and faster
> to just record it with a Hauppage or DC10+ in the first place.

Yes.  But in that assumption you are _totally_ missing the point.

> With the prices of HDs and high performance computers now, PVRs are, IMHO,
> only useful for times when you can't record with your DC10+ due to space
> limitations and instances when your not home, so you program the PVR.

Right.  We are building PVRs with cheap HDs and high performance
computers and hardware encoders, etc.

To use a waaaaayyyyy overly used phrase: think out of the box!

b.

-- 
Brian J. Murrell

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