On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 10:55:35AM +0100, Ronald Bultje wrote:
> Hey Brian,

Hi Ronald,

> Apart from the fact that the PVR isn't supported under linux

With an OpenSource driver, no I don't think so (yet).  From what I
have been able to determine, there is a "reference" driver available
with all kinds of NDA baggage attached.  It is available though.
Dunno if it works.

> I doubt that the PVR
> would give as much quality as the zoran+mpeg2enc combination gives...

Maybe not.  Maybe this is my point/problem.

> This combination gives extremely high quality (especially when denoising
> is used for these last few noise bits) at a not-too-high size,

No argument here.

> It's time consuming, definately, but the results are worth it.

For material that you want to keep on a long term basis this might be
true.  But I am looking for PVR functionality here.  Record a one-hour
television show, watch it, delete it.  Getting near-DVD quality in a
small amount of space would sure be nice, but not at the expense of
taking 8-10 hours to encode it.

I guess this is one situation where mpeg2enc fails: being able to
specify lower quality for faster encoding time.  mp1e fills this void
very well (although only with MPEG1, not MPEG2) but does not (AFAIK)
fit in a "lav2yuv" pipeline.  I wonder how difficult it would be to
make mp1e read yuv data from stdin rather than a v4l{1,2} device.

The better solution though, would be a fast (and accepted lower
quality) mode within mpeg2enc.

> *grin*. DVB... *melts*.

Yeah, tell me about it.  We could all do away with all of this
encoding if we could just "cat" the MPEG2 stream to disk.

> We old-fashioned dutchmen are still stuck with
> old-fashioned cable for at least another 10 years.

So will we North Americans because it will be the only alternative to
the proprietary digital systems that the sheep over here are so
accepting of.

b.

-- 
Brian J. Murrell

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