On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 21:52:18 +0530, "Karthik Kumar"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Perhaps you're *USING* these 4 files to install the adobe flash player
> > on your machine (your example a little bit later in this mail seems to
> > indicate you have at least installed it). That's non-free software
> > you've installed, but you are free to do so. Then, to you, those four
> > small files are not so useless, are they ?
> >
> 
> Okay, I didn't install it. But it's like saying 'There is no proof
> that the Makefiles won't work unless at least one person has installed
> them and verified". In any case, I put forward the argument that the
> Makefiles are useless because no single person has reported a
> successful install with them. BooHoo!
> 
> > But you're not complaining that these (FREE) files are useless.
> > There's almost 5000 ports in the tree now, you are not using them all
> > (you're not even using all the ports for free programs) so there's a
> > lot more to complain about if that was your gripe. I've made an effort
> > to reply to your argument but we were discussing the free-ness of
> > OpenBSD, not the usefulness. Please stick to the subject and do not
> > try to divert the discussion to unrelated matters.
> 
> No, i'm talking about the usefulness of your supposedly free (and
> useful) makefiles in installing nonfree software.
> 
> >
> > Here's a nice trick. On any OpenBSD system simply do the following :
> >
> >         ftp http://tinyurl.com/83kyc
> >
> 
> Have you performed the above step too? Shame on you for using
> Microsoft PowerPoint .. or whatever it is you people use.
> 
> > Et voila ! You now have non-free software on your system. It is the
> > Microsoft PowerPoint Viewer (it's gratis (doesn't cost money) but it's
> > not open source). You did this with free software (ftp from OpenBSD) !
> > Ohnoes ! That software (OpenBSD ftp) isn't free, I can use it to
> > download non-free software !
> >
> > Boohoo. Now explain again how this makes OpenBSD any less free.
> >
> > After your 'make install' in /usr/ports/www/opera-flashplugin, *YOU*
> > have installed libflashplayer.so on your system. Why does that make
> > OpenBSD any less free ?
> >
> 
> Like I already replied to someone: They put a cigarette pack in
> OpenBSD with the warning: 'Smoking causes Cancer'. They say it's there
> but you're not supposed to smoke it. It's not going to harm you unless
> you smoke it. Do you see the analogy?

Yes, but do you? 
It's called *FREEDOM*. Your analogy in no way
encourages or endorses cigarette smoking.
But for a better analogy the cigarette pack is not there.
There is just a URL to a page with the cigarette pack.
Now go away you stupid f***** troll.

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