On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Richard Stallman wrote:

>    IMO, a big part of the problem here is that when you say "recommend" in
>    this context what you actually mean appears (based on the discussion
>    here) to be something that most people would express as "not
>    deliberately erect barriers against".
>
>The evidence of this discussion shows that's not a good description
>for what I am saying.

You've apparently been reading a very different set of responses from
the ones I've read.  AFAICT from their messages, most of the people
responding here to this issue agree with me.

>                       Many of the people on this list were told that
>I want OpenBSD to "erect barriers against" installing non-free
>programs.

That's the only plausible conclusion I can draw from your own words.
AFAICT from your messages, the absolute minimum that would satisfy you
is for OpenBSD to never mention anywhere, in any manner (except perhaps
a negative one), anything which is non-free (by your definition).
Since this would require explicitly rejecting any proposed addition to
the ports collection which would install something which is 'non-free',
you do require erecting barriers.

>           And their words show that they think this means designing
>the system so that installing non-free programs is impossible.  (I
>have not suggested such a thing.)
>
>My usage of the "recommend" fits in normal usage.

Sorry, but that's nonsense.  "Mentioning" and "recommending" are very
different things, and what OpenBSD does is no more than mentioning.

>                                                   If you include
>program FOO in a list of programs that could be installed, implicitly
>that recommends installing FOO as an option for people to consider.
>
>Perhaps "implicitly recommend" would be a clearer description of this
>particular case.

It would be closer to reality, but would still massively overstate the
case.

        Dave

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Dave Anderson
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