On 8/24/16 7:15 AM, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > Hi, Hi,
I don't write much on misc@ anymore because of emails like yours. But this time I fell I had too. I am not a OpenBSD dev, but I fell your insults as well I am sure. > first of all, I am an experienced OS installer and I did a > heck of partitioning in my life. Now I had some unused disk > space and I found it a good idea to install OpenBSD. Big statement. But questionable validity I guess... > The installers partitioning tool didn't offer me a variant > that keeps my existing partitions. Therefore I immediately > stopped it. But yet it was too late. The partition table was > overwritten. If you stop right away the disk wouldn't have been damage at all. So you didn't! fact. I suppose for you to say above "experienced OS installer" mean as long as someone or something is holding your hand... > The damage is not hard for me because I tersely do backups. > But this behaviour is impudent. This blowfish is not a safe > operating system, it rather is a poorly prepared fugu. Now if you read the FAQ or read the display on the screen, none of this would have happened. How do I know that. Well just a little story, my son did install OpenBSD many times in his life. To many to count and I never made it easy for him either. Always told him to RTFM first (believe me, he return this to me now every chance he has and I love him for it too!) and then if he has questions, to asked. He is on this list time to time when not busy with school, and he sure can confirmed this. Now why do I say that. Well his first "***experienced OS installer***" install was on his own build custom computer at age 6. Windows 95 at the time as he wanted to program his RCX back then for who knows about Lego! And his first OpenBSD installation was not to far after that. I used to asked him to install OpenBSD for me on load of Sun's servers and he do them happily, check the memory, add some, replace drives with new one, sometime 15 to 20 servers per night! The funny part about this is I have a few engineers working for me at the time and sadly I trusted my son more to do the proper install then they would have at the time! See most of them are "experienced OS installer" too! But don't know shit about hardware... His first multi boot installation was around the time he was 10 or so I think. Been so many years now I can't recall the details and it doesn't makes me any younger either! By the way his first multiboot was on his mac 1,1 at the time back then. May be he tried it on Windows I may have had around possibly but don't think so. However the first usable one was definitely on his mac that he used for school then and that wasn't the easiest one to do it on either! And he did multiple times before one day he did one mistake that I helped correct for him with the Golden help of Nick on this list. Believe me when I say he tried himself and only came to me at the last resource, he felt bad having made that mistake! So, what a Dad got to do, well help, we are there for that after all aren't we... See here history telling the truth, that was 2009! https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=124122973208531&w=2 But that was after he succeeded multiple times without me telling him shit! So, what does that make him or you for that matter? Who's the "experienced OS installer"? So, I think you made a very big statement in your opening and you may have made a big fool of yourself as if your statement is true, then you shouldn't give up at the first trial! It only makes you looks like vaporware in statement, or proving you really need handing at every step, not creating your statement of "experienced OS installer", or if you want to live to your own words, then try again and do it right! There is nothing wrong making mistakes, we all do and I sure do my fair share of them too. But telling others that "This blowfish is not a safe operating system, it rather is a poorly prepared fugu." is way out of reason!!!! Or may be I should refer you to help provided by a 13 years old at the time for multi boot installed here: http://marc.info/?t=126945770200002&r=1&w=4 And that was on his mac 5,5 however he had it running way before that on his very old mac 1,1 model. If your really interested I am sure you can find it in the archive. So, live up to your own words or eat them! Peace, Daniel PS: Statement like your remind me why I don't write as much as I used to on this list...
