So...uhh...this is kind of embarrassing.  I may have fixed it (OSPF just
his adjacency of 19h, previous max uptime was 12 hours).  Someone mentioned
the Ubnt backhaul versions or something so I double checked and it never
got updated.  One of the two backhauls was running 5.5 or something
ancient.  I upgraded it and everything seems to be OK now, at least we're
hitting a new record after 4 days of <12 hour uptimes.

I don't work much with multicast but I was always under the impression that
APWDS and STAWDS simply acted as a transparent bridge.  Clearly it doesn't.

Sorry for the noise and thanks for the sanity checks/making me look at the
firmware versions on the backhauls!


Josh Luthman
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On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Jesse Dupont via Mikrotik-users <
mikrotik-users@wispa.org> wrote:

> I would make sure spanning tree is off on the 750 sw bridge and go ahead
> and turn off Multicast Enhancement on the APs (leave Multicast Allowed as
> enabled).
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 30, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> Multicast Data is allowed and Multicast Enhancement is Enabled on the AP.
> The STA Multicast Data is allowed by there is no option for Multicast
> Enhancement.  Should I disable the enhancement on the AP only?  I assume I
> have to enable Multicast on these links.  (FYI one is 5 GHz the other is
> 3.65 GHz - 802.11n "M" gear).
>
> There is an RB750 switch (software bridge).  L2 MTU 1598.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Jesse Dupont via Mikrotik-users <
> mikrotik-users@wispa.org> wrote:
>
>> I think it’s an LSA flooding issue, especially since it works for a while
>> then stops, then comes back. Disabling the instance as you do to fix it
>> makes the whole adjacency start over which starts with new LSAs.
>> Using a “broadcast” network type doesn’t use broadcasts to establish the
>> adjacencies, it still uses multicast. It just allows for the election of
>> the DR/BDR and more than two endpoints compared to Point-to-point network
>> type. Anyway, it’s not the issue.
>> Have you tried disabling (or enabling if it’s currently disabled)
>> Multicast Enhancement on the two UBNT links? Is there a switch between the
>> two UBNT links in the middle?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users <
>> mikrotik-users@wispa.org> wrote:
>>
>> In your case did you use a "hidden non used" /30 to build the eoip and
>> then put your good IPs on top of the eoip?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Adam R Johnson <ajohn...@thewisp.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ours was/is a /29.
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:36 AM Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users <
>>> mikrotik-users@wispa.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Between the two routers it's a /30
>>>>
>>>> Interesting thing to note...it came back up on its own over lunch.
>>>> About 11 hours of it not working (see the log previously posted).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
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>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>>>> Suite 1337
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>>>> Troy, OH 45373
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>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Robert Andrews via Mikrotik-users <
>>>> mikrotik-users@wispa.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So this brings up a question that we ran into, what are the netmasks
>>>>> around these links?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/30/2018 10:14 AM, Adam R Johnson via Mikrotik-users wrote:
>>>>> > Hey Josh,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Just throwing in my 2 cents here. We have a very similar situation.
>>>>> What
>>>>> > was once a powercode bmu, is now a rb3011 connected to an AF24<>AF24
>>>>> > then another rb3011. The 3011s will not complete adjacency, where
>>>>> the
>>>>> > bmu and 3011 did originally. Our OSPF setup is PtP in these
>>>>> scenarios.
>>>>> > We have this setup in 2 separate locations on our network, and each
>>>>> has
>>>>> > the same problem. Our 'stab in the dark' fix was adding a secondary
>>>>> and
>>>>> > temporary 192.168.x.x/24 on the segment, and it created adjacency
>>>>> and
>>>>> > ran without error. We did the same for the second instance with the
>>>>> same
>>>>> > result.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > We revisited the issue, to try to resolve a week or so later, but
>>>>> was
>>>>> > unable to find the cause or solution in the time we had. Given that
>>>>> it
>>>>> > was working without error, albeit slightly messy, we have left it in
>>>>> > place with more important things to tackle. It has been like this
>>>>> for
>>>>> > about 8 months now.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Im not necessarily advocating this as a fix, but it is a workaround
>>>>> that
>>>>> > may provide further information to lead to the issues cause, and
>>>>> imho is
>>>>> > a bit nicer than an EoIP tunnel.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Cheers!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *ADAM JOHNSON — PRESIDENT*
>>>>> > (815) 304-6008 | ajohn...@thewisp.net <mailto:ajohn...@thewisp.net>
>>>>> > PO BOX 460 TAMPICO,IL 61283
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>>>>> > <http://www.twitter.com/thewispnet>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 8:37 AM Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users
>>>>> > <mikrotik-users@wispa.org <mailto:mikrotik-users@wispa.org>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     CCR goes through two Ubnt wireless links before hitting the
>>>>> RB750.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     On the CCR1009 it is ether4 - not a combo port, not switched.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     Josh Luthman
>>>>> >     Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> >     Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> >     1100 Wayne St
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Suite+1337+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> >     Suite 1337
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Suite+1337+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> >     Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Suite+1337+%0D%0A+%C2%A0+%C2%A0+%C2%A0Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:33 AM, Scott <lamb...@lambertfam.org
>>>>> >     <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         On 2018/10/30 09:24, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >             There are two Ubnt backhauls between them.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         With recent firmware it shouldn't be a big deal to run
>>>>> >         broadcast.  I always run Point-to-point over wireless links
>>>>> with
>>>>> >         exactly two endpoints.  A lot of that is leftover from when
>>>>> most
>>>>> >         802.11 based wireless links had issues with broadcast.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         What connects the two backhauls?  Crossover cable?  Switch,
>>>>> >         smart or dumb, brand?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         Which interface are you using on the 1009?  Is it a combo
>>>>> port?
>>>>> >         Is it in the switch group?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >         --
>>>>> >         Scott Lambert                  KC5MLE
>>>>>  Unix
>>>>> >         SysAdmin
>>>>> >         lamb...@lambertfam.org <mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>
>>>>> >
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