> On Feb 19, 2025, at 11:23 AM, David Walters via groups.io
> <david.walters66=comcast....@groups.io> wrote:
>
> I am one of the folks who do a lot of work on copyright law for the Marxists
> Internet Archive.
And that's an interesting story,
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/01/arts/claiming-a-copyright-on-marx-how-uncomradely.html?unlocked_article_code=1.yk4.e-yD.EAM92fNnzRRr&smid=url-share
> Comments such as "Letters to the Editor", interviews, etc. If you write a
> letter to an entity (web site, newspaper, media) those comments fall under
> the publication domain (whatever format it is in). To my knowledge Marxmail
> is not copyrighted formally but has the post 1988 paradigm that anything
> published here is Marxmail's.
I'm not sure what it means that a mailing list owns something. I haven't
considered Marxmail copyright. Maybe we should have a Creative Commons
copyright declaration.
> However, the reposting, for example, of John's blog, Oakland Socialist, is
> still copyrighted by John. But if John makes a comment public by posting here
> (either on his article or someone else's as part of a, again, public
> discussion, it really belongs to Marxmail or, it resides in the public domain.
> David
I have some experience with copyright and digital rights having studied the
topic for a few years and had a front-row seat to see how Hollywood movie
studios used it. It's complicated because Intellectual property, in general, is
a set of national laws and international agreements. But I have never asked
permission to quote something that I had read, watched or heard. Just as I
don't believe that a professor of film needs to pay royalties to show a class
clips from a movie for the purposes of instruction or exposition. I think that
is certainly the case if the person quoting or showing clips is not making any
money on it. In US copyright case law, that has traditionally been called "fair
use" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use), and it extends to for-profit
uses as well (e.g., The Daily Show in the US).
I think "fair use" is an important working-class defense against being hounded
in the courts by capitalist who we quote.
thanks, Mark
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