Where did he say uncritical support? It’s starkly between people being able
to live and killing people by their benefits cut. I don’t think the latter
is a leftist thing.

On Tuesday, February 4, 2025, Mark Lause via groups.io <markalause=
gmail....@groups.io> wrote:

> Right. People critical of the uncritical support Honest John wanted us to
> extend to the Democrats never warned about Trump and MAGA.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2025, 7:56 PM John Edmundson via groups.io <johnedmundson4=
> gmail....@groups.io> wrote:
>
>> The people you disparage as "Marxists" or "those on this list who think
>> they are Marxists" didn't call for a vote for Trump; they just argued
>> against lesser evilism and illusions in the Democratic Party. It's hard to
>> do that while simultaneously calling on people to vote for Democratic Party
>> lesser evilism. So for example, instead of simply complaining that Trump is
>> planning to send 30,000 people to Guantanamo, someone posted to this list
>> an article that showed how Biden and past Democrat administrations helped
>> enable that.
>>
>> The enemy is not Trump and his self serving cabal. It's the whole damned
>> system. So yes, of course everyone on this list knew Trump would be awful.
>> It's just that some didn't prioritize buying into the corrupt and
>> anti-democratic duopoly that is US electoral politics.
>>
>> If there is an upsurge of radicalism in the US, I doubt it will reject
>> those who condemned the Democrats while gravitating only to those who
>> focused on Trump.
>>
>> Comradely,
>> John
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, 14:02 John Reimann via groups.io, <1999wildcat=
>> gmail....@groups.io> wrote:
>>
>>> Trump is now saying openly that the Palestinians in Gaza should leave
>>> and that Gaza real estate should be developed. This is no surprise as it
>>> was the position of Kushner all along and there was never any reason to
>>> doubt it was Trump's position also. When added to everything else that is
>>> going on - Trump's appointees, his release of 1500 violent fascist
>>> organizers, the takeover of the Treasury by the Nazi saluting Musk... too
>>> much to enumerate there.... I'm wondering if those brilliant "Marxist"
>>> geniuses who spent the election period denouncing Harris with hardly a
>>> warning about Trump, those supporters of Palestine who did the same... I'm
>>> wondering if any of them are having second thoughts. I'm wondering if any
>>> of them are thinking "well, maybe I should have at least spent equal time
>>> warning against, trying to prepare for MAGA and Trump, never mind actually
>>> trying to keep him out." Well, actually, naah, I'm not wondering very much.
>>>
>>> Here is a special bonus deal for those on this list who think they are
>>> Marxists - a video I did today. I'm sure you'll enjoy it to the hilt (not).
>>> https://youtu.be/686yGlleNDU?si=ilP5xK2SC_8ip1pQ
>>>
>>> --
>>> *“Science and socialism go hand-in-hand.” *Felicity Dowling
>>> Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com also on Facebook
>>>
>> 
>
>


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