Right. People critical of the uncritical support Honest John wanted us to
extend to the Democrats never warned about Trump and MAGA.



On Tue, Feb 4, 2025, 7:56 PM John Edmundson via groups.io <johnedmundson4=
gmail....@groups.io> wrote:

> The people you disparage as "Marxists" or "those on this list who think
> they are Marxists" didn't call for a vote for Trump; they just argued
> against lesser evilism and illusions in the Democratic Party. It's hard to
> do that while simultaneously calling on people to vote for Democratic Party
> lesser evilism. So for example, instead of simply complaining that Trump is
> planning to send 30,000 people to Guantanamo, someone posted to this list
> an article that showed how Biden and past Democrat administrations helped
> enable that.
>
> The enemy is not Trump and his self serving cabal. It's the whole damned
> system. So yes, of course everyone on this list knew Trump would be awful.
> It's just that some didn't prioritize buying into the corrupt and
> anti-democratic duopoly that is US electoral politics.
>
> If there is an upsurge of radicalism in the US, I doubt it will reject
> those who condemned the Democrats while gravitating only to those who
> focused on Trump.
>
> Comradely,
> John
>
> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, 14:02 John Reimann via groups.io, <1999wildcat=
> gmail....@groups.io> wrote:
>
>> Trump is now saying openly that the Palestinians in Gaza should leave and
>> that Gaza real estate should be developed. This is no surprise as it was
>> the position of Kushner all along and there was never any reason to doubt
>> it was Trump's position also. When added to everything else that is going
>> on - Trump's appointees, his release of 1500 violent fascist organizers,
>> the takeover of the Treasury by the Nazi saluting Musk... too much to
>> enumerate there.... I'm wondering if those brilliant "Marxist" geniuses who
>> spent the election period denouncing Harris with hardly a warning about
>> Trump, those supporters of Palestine who did the same... I'm wondering if
>> any of them are having second thoughts. I'm wondering if any of them are
>> thinking "well, maybe I should have at least spent equal time warning
>> against, trying to prepare for MAGA and Trump, never mind actually trying
>> to keep him out." Well, actually, naah, I'm not wondering very much.
>>
>> Here is a special bonus deal for those on this list who think they are
>> Marxists - a video I did today. I'm sure you'll enjoy it to the hilt (not).
>> https://youtu.be/686yGlleNDU?si=ilP5xK2SC_8ip1pQ
>>
>> --
>> *“Science and socialism go hand-in-hand.” *Felicity Dowling
>> Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com also on Facebook
>>
> 
>


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