I'm not attacking you, Florian, and I am sorry if my rant sounded like that . English is not my native language so sometimes I mess up.
It's just the absurdity of the situation. Just imagine if every email provider started demanding their own "conditions" to accept mail from everyone else, the chaos that would ensue ( hence my "goat sacrifice" joke ) . t-online isn't a 800lb gorilla (not even close ...) and this kind of policies only hurt their customers. But it's not up to me to teach them their job. Or their business. Or their behaviour/language/attitude before us mere mortals that wish to relay their customers email messages. My customers are warned of this and that's as far as I go. I can't be ar***d to take care of someone else's business. I got my own headaches, tyvm :-) Regards, On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 5:32 PM Florian Effenberger via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > Hello, > > Paulo Pinto via mailop wrote on 15.04.25 at 18:11: > > It's ok that t-online customers won't get email from our customers. > > > > Our own customers are informed that it's a destination service block and > > they refuse to remove it ( self-entitlement and arrogance are the best > > adjectives I can use for the "amicable" mails exchanged with the > > postmaster/whatever contact, even with us trying to "comply" with > > whatever they "demanded"), based on whichever "rule" they self-create > > and enforce. They believe they are a 800lb gorilla ... > > > > Meanwhile we'll be blocking whoever we want and will be imposing a self- > > rule making someone we deem "untrusted" and that wants to send us email > > must perform a ritualistic goat sacrifice and send us the video proof > > with the CEO portraying some kind of official paper right beside it. > > > > C'mon ... > > I'm not defending or justifying what they do, don't get me wrong. ;-) > > I try to explain how I worked around the issue. There's a lot of things > I find unpleasant when operating a mail server (in particular if you > have a new IP used by someone else in the past, or if you are in a > spammy neighourhood). This is one of the challenges. > > I doubt Telekom changes their approach, but it seems some were lucky to > get unblocked without fulfilling their requirement. > > Florian > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop > -- -- Paulo Azevedo
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