I would be 'OK' with this rule of theirs if I'd be certain it
applied to everyone.

At this point I asked them 3 times what they do about GoDaddy that
operates secureserver.net . If you go on ​https://secureserver.net
there is no contact information whatsoever.

But yeah, they aren't answering _this_ question so it seems not only
do they have arbitrary rules, they apply them arbitrarily as well. 

Scott​

On Tuesday, 15/04/2025 at 16:23 Florian Effenberger via mailop wrote:



Hi Paulo,

Paulo Pinto via mailop wrote on 15.04.25 at 21:51:
> I'm not attacking you, Florian,  and I am sorry if my rant sounded
like 
> that . English is not my native language so sometimes I mess up.

no worries, I am not upset at all and I didn't have the impression you

attacked me - all is good, no bad feelings! :-)

> It's just the absurdity of the situation. Just imagine if every
email 
> provider started demanding their own "conditions" to accept mail
from 
> everyone else, the chaos that would ensue ( hence my "goat
sacrifice" 
> joke ) .
> 
> t-online isn't a 800lb gorilla (not even close ...) and this kind of

> policies only hurt their customers. But it's not up to me to teach
them 
> their job.  Or their business. Or their behaviour/language/attitude

> before us mere mortals that wish to relay their customers email
messages.
> 
> My customers are warned of this and that's as far as I go. I can't
be 
> ar***d to take care of someone else's business. I got my own
headaches, 
> tyvm :-)

I totally feel your pain. Let's say that as a hobby mail server 
operator, I've grown a very thick skin in dealing with ISPs. It's
really 
an unthankful job with a lot of pitfalls. I think what Telekom does 
would not be needed and must feel really strange to non-Germans (where

this imprint nonsense is more promiment, sadly). The positive thing
is, 
at least they react quickly and helpful, in contrast to other
providers 
who don't give a damn and you have to find your way around.

But I agree, it's a bit unfortunate...

Florian
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