Dnia 19.12.2024 o godz. 00:41:58 L. Mark Stone via mailop pisze:
> they've given you a specific timeframe in which to search, and a specific
> bounce message for which to search.

Did they really?

From Scott's email I had the impression that they didn't give him a
*specific* message to search for (eg. look in logs for message that says
"xxxxx"), they only told that their rejection message is "distinctive", ie.
stands out of other, "typical" rejection messages. But they didn't tell
*exactly* what the message is.

If I'm wrong and they actually provided a specific message text to search
for, then I see no problem with grepping the logs for it. But if they only
told to look for something that is "distinctive", then the sender has
actually to extract *all* rejection messages from the logs within those 7
days, and then a human must *manually* look through all of them to spot
something that is "different". I understand that this can be hardly feasible
if there are a lot of rejections.

Maybe that's a job for some AI tool - feed the AI all those rejection
messages and request to find something that is "non-typical" - but I'm not
sure how easy would it be and how well could the AI do the job.

I never worked for, or with, an ESP, but I can tell just a small example
from the receiving side. There was an user on my server several years ago
who signed up for a few newsletters. All these were legitimate, opt-in
newsletters, not spam. The user's account has been deleted over 5 years ago,
and my server correctly responds with "User unknown" rejection, yet after
these years I'm still seeing delivery attempts from those newsletters in my
log.

You can say it's a bad list hygiene - and I fully agree - but that bad list
hygiene seems to be a common fact, so I imagine that an ESP can really have
*a lot* of rejections within 7 days timeframe and it can be really hard to
manually search through them, not knowing what *exactly* to look for.
-- 
Regards,
   Jaroslaw Rafa
   r...@rafa.eu.org
--
"In a million years, when kids go to school, they're gonna know: once there
was a Hushpuppy, and she lived with her daddy in the Bathtub."
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