But why is it bad if legitimate hosting providers know which of
their accounts is abused so they can take action and fix the problem ?
I understand you don't want spammers to know what spamtraps you use,
but surely it would be beneficial for everyone if there is a trust
circle that can easily solve problems. A feedback loop basically.
Scott
On Wednesday, 18/12/2024 at 07:48 Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote:
("List only" replies appreciated here)
> ok, granted, but how else do you suppose would be a better method
> ? Can you imagine them asking Gmail to look at their logs at around
> +/- 1 minute ? We're not Gmail level but we still have lots of data,
> it's a silly way to convey information.
I don't have a better way to suggest. I'm just pointing out that
identifying spamtraps explicitly enables listwashing, so spamtrap
operators are trying to do whatever they can to avoid it - while
nonetheless trying to provide at least some useful information,
in some cases.
It is likely that any spamming account sent any number of similar
messages around the timeframe indicated.
Any entity rejecting the messages that another party tries to send
owes just about nothing to the would-be sender. At least you get the
information of WHO is responsible for the rejection here; in the case
of Cisco Talos Intelligence, the error messages don't even tell you
that you have a problem with Talos, they refer to unspecific
reputation
issues where you don't even know where to start looking :-D
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Koli-Lõks OÜ (reg. no. 12815457, VAT ID EE101811635)
Tallinn, Estonia
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