There are many thresholds.
As for your last paragraph … um, been watching the news lately?
ICYMI…
https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-email-hack-outlook-hotmail-customer-support/
Aloha,
Michael.
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-----Original Message-----
From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> On Behalf Of Paul Smith
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:40 AM
To: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders
On 24/04/2019 02:22, John Levine wrote:
>
> But the vast majority of people who would use a system like that would
> be spammers to try to get their unwanted mail delivered. That's never
> going to happen.
The thing is that Microsoft have the SDNS system already.
But for small senders it's of limited use.
The '100 messages a day' threshold they have means that small senders get zero
information from it. We have multiple smarthosts which send several thousand
messages a day, but because they send <100 to Microsoft email addresses,
they're not listed.
I've had cases where their 'View IP Status' shows no problems, but some of our
IP addresses are blocked. Even the next day it shows no problems, so if it's
meant to show the previous day's status, it's still not showing it.
Occasionally we have had IP addresses shown up as blocked on 'View IP Status',
but it shows no reason or information to help get it unblocked
- so it tells us nothing we didn't already know.
If something showed a basic reason for blocking - "too much reported spam", "IP
reputation" etc, then it would at least give a bit of help.
We've had IP addresses show as 'green' on their 'View Data' list for days, and
then suddenly be blocked, and we have no idea why (they weren't sending spam -
we log all the messages sent) and no useful way to get them unblocked.
> Outlook has no idea who you are, and they have no way to tell you from
> any other mailer whose mail they're not delivering.
When you contact Microsoft about an IP address, THEY should be able to see what
some recent messages from that IP address were, and why it's been blocked, to
be able to guess if you're a probable spammer or a legitimate sender who's been
caught out, and then be helpful or not based on that.
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