Which brings me back to my initial question - anybody from Comcast here,
or can somebody point me at an appropriate contact at Comcast?
(of course this may be Return Path pointing a finger)
Thanks,
Miles
On 6/29/16 3:54 PM, Mickey Chandler via mailop wrote:
Note the quote from the Comcast FAQ page "The ISP may redact..."
That seems to indicate that this is Comcast's decision, not Return Path's.
Mickey
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Miles Fidelman
<mfidel...@meetinghouse.net <mailto:mfidel...@meetinghouse.net>> wrote:
Well, I just received this from Return Path:
-------
Thank you for contacting us.
In order to obtain more information about the abusive user, you
may implement a tracking ID, Please see the information below
that is provided in the Comcast FAQ page:
"The ISP may redact parts of the original message to protect the
privacy of their users. In the event an ISP redacts subscriber
email addresses from their feedback loop messages, you should
incorporate a tracking ID unique to the recipient's record in your
database and your messages so that you can process the removals.
You can add this ID in the body of the message or add an "X"
header in the header of the message. An example of this could be
"X-SenderName-ClientID: 543432".
--------
I find it rather disturbing that one of the major vendors of spam
filtering services does things in such a non-standards-compliant
way. Everyone else (well, AOL, Yahoo, the other "big boys") seem
to return message-id along with an FBL notice. Return Path seems
to filter it out.
That's just painful.
Sigh.
Miles Fidelman
On 6/29/16 3:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
That's the thing. I DO VERP our SMTP envelopes, but Comcast's
FBL reports only include this:
User-Agent: ReturnPathFBL/1.0
Abuse-Type: complaint
Arrival-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:23:37 +0000
Feedback-Type: abuse
Version: 1
Source-IP: 207.154.13.48
Original-Rcpt-To:8d29aa11b1810bec67beca0de3554...@lists.fusn.org
<mailto:8d29aa11b1810bec67beca0de3554...@lists.fusn.org>
Original-Mail-From:fusn-ow...@lists.fusn.org
<mailto:fusn-ow...@lists.fusn.org>
Reported-Domain:lists.fusn.org <http://lists.fusn.org>
ForwardedMessage.eml
Subject:
[8d29aa11b1810bec67beca0de3554359] Free: pair of planters
From:
<redacted by me>
Date:
6/29/16, 11:23 AM
To:
8d29aa11b1810bec67beca0de3554...@lists.fusn.org
<mailto:8d29aa11b1810bec67beca0de3554...@lists.fusn.org>
Note that the
Original-Rcpt-To:8d29aa11b1810bec67beca0de3554...@lists.fusn.org
<mailto:8d29aa11b1810bec67beca0de3554...@lists.fusn.org>
and
To:
8d29aa11b1810bec67beca0de3554...@lists.fusn.org
<mailto:8d29aa11b1810bec67beca0de3554...@lists.fusn.org>
Addresses are not the VERPed address, or even the recipient
address. They seem to be an obfuscated version of the LIST
address. Not really helpful.
As far as I can tell, there is NOTHING in the abuse report that
can be associated with either the final recipient or a message-id
that would let me locate the message in our outgoing logs (from
which, given VERP, I could find the recipient).
Based on other comments, I sent a query to Return Path - I'm half
expecting that they'll offer to sell me the info, or a slot on
their whitelist.
Sigh...
Miles Fidelman
On 6/29/16 3:10 PM, Vick Khera wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Miles Fidelman
<mfidel...@meetinghouse.net <mailto:mfidel...@meetinghouse.net>>
wrote:
Is there anybody here from Comcast mail operations who can
provide some guidance as to how to identify the originator
of an abuse report, so I can remove them from the list(s)?
If you VERP the SMTP envelope sender address, that should help
you out. It comes back embedded in the report as
"Original-Mail-From:"
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