2010/9/23 Siju George <[email protected]>: > > Now Please Read this taken from > > > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118861134304239&w=2 > > ============================================== > > - If you wish for everyone to remain friends, you should give code back. > > That means (at some ethical or friendliness level) you probably do > not want to put a GPL at the top of a BSD or ISC file, because you > would be telling the people who wrote the BSD or ISC file: > > "Thanks for what you wrote, but this is a one-way street, you give > us code, and we take it, we give you you nothing back. screw off." > > In either case, I think a valuable lessons has been taught us here in > the BSD world -- there are many many GPL loving people who are going > to try to find any way to not give back and share (I will mention one > name: Luis Rodriguez has been a fanatic pushing us for dual licensed, > and I feel he is to blame for this particular problem). Many of those > same people have been saying for years that BSD code can be stolen, > and that is why people should GPL their code. > > Well, the lesson they have really taught us is that they consider the > GPL their best tool to take from us! > > GPL fans said the great problem we would face is that companies would > take our BSD code, modify it, and not give back. Nope -- the great > problem we face is that people would wrap the GPL around our code, and > lock us out in the same way that these supposed companies would lock > us out. Just like the Linux community, we have many companies giving > us code back, all the time. But once the code is GPL'd, we cannot get > it back. > > Ironic. > > I hope some people in the GPL community will give that some thought. > Your license may benefit you, but you could lose friends you need. > The GPL users have an opportunity to 'develop community', to keep an > ethic of sharing alive. > > If the Linux developers wrap GPL's around things we worked very hard > on, it will definately not be viewed as community development. > > Thank you for thinking about this. > > =============================================
And this too http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118870806431189&w=2 Above was a different take on the issue. Proprietary companies not giving source code when they include BSD licensed code in their products, best example TCP/IP stack in Windows. Is that legal? Anyway thanks for sharing this thread. I have not been thinking this angle. > So GPL is ALL take and NO give back which is exactly what Propreitry > Licences do too. But at least Propreitry people write their own code > and Don't Steal un lawfully from others! > > Think about it without being a slave to RMS. > > RMS is quite irrelevant and even contrary to Software Freedom these > days. Quite impractical! Ask him why he does not use browser and gets > websites through 'wget'! > > Disuse is not the solution for misuse!!! I agree it is not ethical to wrap GPL around BSD code. I agree to Theo's and Eben's views that it is not legal as well. New BSD license says, "* Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution." Does this condition require publishing of source code if you distribute only binary? -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as they follow the rules: laws and constitution. _______________________________________________ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #[email protected]
