On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Siju George <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Sebin Jacob <[email protected]> wrote: >> Siju, >> >> A doubt. >> >> Why exactly are you saying that GPL is "all take and no give back," while >> the GPL advocates reuse and derivative works? The only loop that GPL >> maintains is that, if you make upon GPL'd code, it should also be given back >> in the same license conditions. Aren't it the strength of GPL, where as BSD >> licensed code can be used and stolen, ie, there is no clause that one should >> give it back. I admire the dedication of BSD guys. But I do not admire the >> fact that even proprietary companies can use that free code and make the >> derivative non free. >> > > BSD code cannot be stolen. It can be used by all. > The BSD code can be stolen is a myth that GPL guys propogated for some time. > When they tried to steal it the LAW came into play and they could not do it.
Many companies have taken BSD code and have relicensed it under proprietary terms and without giving back. The BSD license does not require the propagation of 'freedom', that is a big problem > GPL in itself does not encourage but forces to share. > Where as BSD Licence encourages to share in an ethical way. It does not ensure ethics - that is the problem > The problem is GPL freaks says Propreitery poeple does not Open Source > their code. > But after all it is a code they have written they have the right to do > what ever they want with it. The law gives them that right. If you > don't want to use it then don't use it! Your argument is too vague It is the distribution of closed source proprietary software that is opposed. Stupid laws detrimental to the society should not be accepted. If you cannot defend the freedom you provide, then it can be counterproductive. GPL can sustain freedom, while BSD does not. GPL has not been formulated to oppose the 'stupid laws' and advocates of FOSS may or may not oppose the 'stupid laws'. > Propreitry people have taken BSD code a lot and have given a back at > numerous times. This is nonsense ... BSD people will confirm that. Their flagship distros are lagging behind. ...precisely because their license is too naive. > The LAW requires that if some one takes a BSD licnece and adds GPL > code the file should be dual licenced thus the resulting code is > accessible to the BSD guys too. Isn't that fair? You take some thing > from some one and give them back? Isn't that freedom? But now GPL guys > tried to delete the BSD licence from those files and thus make it GPL > only. Why ?...different parts should be differently licensed - that should be sane. > They found that it is not lawful to do that! And there the myth they > spread that BSD licenced software can be stolen. > It is all in the public archives. if somebody said that then it should be read 'in a sense'. It does not depend on "people who hold the copyright to something under a license can only relicense or sub-license it". Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc _______________________________________________ Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org #[email protected]
