Hey Daniel, Yup you are right, I can't stand the compact voices. I do have multiple voices installed and the sluggishness is with all of them. I am not even sure how I would revert to the compact voices, will have to look in to it the next time the skipping words happens. On Jan 24, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Bryan, I am really sorry you seem to be experiencing such awful chopping > issues under Mavericks and VO. > The only time I have had this occurred with me is when I power up my late > 2011 MBP I get VO stuttering as it were through the standard "Welcome to OS > 10. Voiceover is on." This is using the higher quality voice. > After this things settle down for me. The only suggestion I have and if it > doesn't work then I am sorry I am unable to think of any other ideas to solve > your problem except from the dreaded re-install already mentioned. > Have you tried using the compact voices to see if that fixes the lag? > I have found that when I used the Compact Daniel voice I got no lag with the > welcome message announced by Voiceover at the log on screen. > Of course, I'm aware that people yourself maybe included, may not like the > compact versions but this is just a testing method as it were to see if the > problem occurs with the compact version. > > Good luck and please do report back even if you've already tried this out. > > Daniel > On 24 Jan 2014, at 21:34, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I know a clean install is not usually necessary, but I can't think of >> anything else to try. I have: >> >> * uninstalled Soundflower, which reports suggest can cause audio processes >> to run constantly and eat CPU power like crazy >> * repaired disk permissions multiple times, the most recent from Safe Mode >> so I was sure to get everything >> * reset the PRAM >> * turned Time Machine off >> * turned Speakable Items off >> * looked for runaway processes, and found none since I removed Soundflower >> >> My machine ran fine under Mountain Lion, especially after I gave it 8gb of >> ram to play with. It is a 2011 Mini, and a low-end CPU, but, again, it ran >> fine four months ago and only has problems now. I hate to revert to Mountain >> Lion since there are features of Mavericks I enjoy (tagging, the new iCloud >> features, new VO voices, and more). More to the point, though, I shouldn't >> have to. Most everyone on this list seems to have gotten the same or better >> performance out of Mavericks compared to Mountain Lion, it's just us lucky >> few that are running into problems. >> On Jan 24, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cahom...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I don't think this is a Mavericks/vo problem per se or at least all by >>> itself; there would apparently seem to be some other variable along with >>> Mavericks and vo that is triggering this since there are many people who >>> are not experiencing the problem along with those who are. I upgraded to >>> Mavericks on both my iMac and Macbook Air; I have chosen to go back to >>> Mountain Lion on the iMac and may do so on the Macbook Air but neither >>> computer had the choppy voiceover problem. If Mavericks is indeed one >>> component in why this is happening, maybe you should back up needed files >>> and reinstall Mountain Lion. I used superduper to back up both my Mavericks >>> and Mountain Lion installation and repaired permissions on both (had to >>> switch to the Mountain Lion external to do its permissions). Then from the >>> Mountain Lion external drive I ran superduper to put Mountain Lion back on >>> the hard drive. I then went through the Mavericks drive and copied needed >>> files over that were not on the Mountain Lion drive. Finally, I erased the >>> Mavericks backup and started Time Machine on it. Sounds complicated but >>> really wasn't bad. Of course if you no longer have a Mountain Lion >>> installation or Time Machine backup you will have to reinstall Mountain >>> Lion. It seems to me, though, that if Mavericks is really a component of >>> the problem and you don't want to waste time again if a reinstallation >>> produces the same choppiness, going back to Mountain Lion would be a >>> quicker solution if your work productivity depends on having things work >>> asap. Just my thoughts; I know different people have different approaches >>> with this. I think if your Mac is new and came with Mavericks you can't put >>> Mountain Lion on but I could be wrong about that. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheryl >>> >>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>> thrown in the trash! >>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>> And now, every day: >>> "This I call to mind, >>> and therefore I have hope: >>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>> never ceases; >>> his mercies never come to an end; >>> they are new every morning; >>> great is your faithfulness." >>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Alex, >>>> >>>> Yeah VO worked for two hours without the choppiness but now is back to >>>> being ridiculously choppy it is so bad that when you type an email it >>>> tells you are word is spelled wrong mid word because VO gets caught or >>>> something. Very disappointed with Mavericks and VO. I am a Apple loyalist >>>> but I am definitely very disappointed with Apple and the lack of quality >>>> in this release. >>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Brian, just so you know, you're not alone. While I can usually read >>>>> things fine, VO has also returned to the occasional choppy, broken speech >>>>> I have been dealing with ever since Mavericks. Apps are also still slow >>>>> to load, and more and more often, emails take longer and longer to open. >>>>> My sister just installed Mavericks and loves how "it's so much faster >>>>> than Mountain Lion!" Well, she's lucky, because 10.9 was a step backward >>>>> for me, and apparently you as well. Let us know if the reinstall helps, >>>>> as that is looking like my only option as well, as much as I hate to say >>>>> it. >>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds like you might want to do an OS reinstall. Back your drives then >>>>>> do the install fresh after hard formatting the principal drive your OS >>>>>> was on. A bit dramatic, takes about two and a half hours, but, well >>>>>> worth the effort. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>>> blind built-in! >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is starting to get unbelievably frustrating as when I get to work >>>>>>> I expect to work and not deal with hours of hours of VoiceOver >>>>>>> problems. I just did a system repair and all was working fine for two >>>>>>> days and now VoiceOver is back to being unbelievably choppy when >>>>>>> reading anything. Multiple voices are choppy and it is not just one >>>>>>> program where the choppiness occurs. I can't read an email all the way >>>>>>> through without having to use VO and the arrows for all the words I >>>>>>> can't understand or VO skips. Any ideas? According to Apple customer >>>>>>> support and yeah VO just crapped out as I typed the word support I have >>>>>>> enough RAM for what I am doing, and they are clueless to what the issue >>>>>>> can be. 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