Tim the Apple customer service guy agreed with you as he told me that a clean install is the very very last thing he would do. Go figure VO is back to working again, very bizarre behavior. On Jan 24, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, > > There are a few processes that happen when a machine is first turned on that, > for non VO users, just wouldn’t be noticed. For example, if you shutdown or > put your computer to sleep overnight, there is a nightly HD “tune-up” that > the OS will perform once the machine is awakened ready to go. Depending on > the amount of RAM, the speed of your HD and the power of your processor, this > could affect performance and would be more noticed by a VO user just because > your computer is using extra processing power to provide speech. Years ago, > you had to run these processes manually if your computer was asleep or > shutdown during the scheduled time, but these now occur upon startup or > awakening. Also, you may notice that the Login screen comes up very quickly, > and if you have a noisy HD, you’ll note that things are still happening even > though it’s ready to accept the login credentials. This will be accentuated > even more if the battery in your computer actually died and therefore shut > itself down on its own. So, the closer you are to minimum requirements, the > more likely background tasks will affect foreground activity. > > On another note, while a clean install has its advantages, I’d just like to > say that in many cases, this is an unnecessary task. If you’re bringing > everything back onto your machine that you had on it in the first place, > you’re likely, sooner or later, going to have similar issues. Unless you > slowly put each app back on one by one, test the machine and see how things > are going, you’re going to have difficulty determining the culprit. I can’t > recall the last time I did a clean install on this MBP. It came with Lion, > and I migrated my previous Snow Leopard machine over to it using Migration > Assistant, upgraded to Mountain Lion and to Mavericks and haven’t seen the > need to do a clean install yet. I realize that there are situations when a > clean install is merited, I’m simply suggesting that it does not need to > happen so commonly. > > Later… > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Alex, Glad someone else sees it my way. Amazingly, the choppiness has >> gone away again. I just want to find out what is causing it, as it drives me >> bonkers having voiceover have a speech impediment, and and stutter. Of >> course if I do do a full reinstall at least I could probably get Downcast >> and Read Kit to possibly work again, neither of those apps will launch on my >> current machine, very strange. >> On Jan 24, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> But I don't want to! :) I know it would be the best thing, but I'm not >>> looking forward to re-installing and reconfiguring *everything* on the Mac. >>> At least the process has Windows beat - I can grab most of my apps from the >>> App Store, put my services back quite easily, and copy the vast majority of >>> my data from my constantly-updated Time machine backup. Still, what a pain, >>> and all because Mavericks decided to not install correctly. Like Brian, I >>> just have a horrible feeling that I'll do all this work and nothing will >>> change. It can't be because I have aftermarket RAM, can it? The ram worked >>> just fine in 10.8, and I haven't had any sudden crashes that might indicate >>> ram problems. >>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, I have found that a fresh clean install is usually the way to go >>>> after about a year or so. May want to do it myself before April or so. I >>>> believe a clean install might be the ticket for you. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>>> built-in! >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>>> >>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey Ray, >>>>> >>>>> Yeah been trying to do everything except that, but might have to try and >>>>> do that this weekend, as this is just getting ridiculous. My concern >>>>> would be if I take the time and effort to do that and still have these >>>>> issues I might blow a gasket. Amazingly, the choppiness hasn't occurred >>>>> during this email writing so maybe there is a process running when I >>>>> first wake up my computer some mornings that I am not aware of that is >>>>> causing the issue. >>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds like you might want to do an OS reinstall. Back your drives then >>>>>> do the install fresh after hard formatting the principal drive your OS >>>>>> was on. A bit dramatic, takes about two and a half hours, but, well >>>>>> worth the effort. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>>> blind built-in! >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 24, 2014, at 9:48 AM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is starting to get unbelievably frustrating as when I get to work >>>>>>> I expect to work and not deal with hours of hours of VoiceOver >>>>>>> problems. I just did a system repair and all was working fine for two >>>>>>> days and now VoiceOver is back to being unbelievably choppy when >>>>>>> reading anything. Multiple voices are choppy and it is not just one >>>>>>> program where the choppiness occurs. I can't read an email all the way >>>>>>> through without having to use VO and the arrows for all the words I >>>>>>> can't understand or VO skips. Any ideas? According to Apple customer >>>>>>> support and yeah VO just crapped out as I typed the word support I have >>>>>>> enough RAM for what I am doing, and they are clueless to what the issue >>>>>>> can be. 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