In my opinion interaction really is very efficiant because it's so logical. But on the other hand it's not obvious to people who are new to this on the Mac when to interact and when not. There are to many different names for things you can interact with: groups, scrol areas, tables sometimes but not on the web with DOM, lists sometimes but not on the web with DOM, toolbars, sidebars, browser etc.. And what makes their confusion even worse is that you actually should interact with for example the browser in a finder window but you don't have to. But if you don't interact some functions are not available like clicking on a file by pressing VO + Spacebar to open it. So I met quite a few beginners who were very unhappy of this inconsistency.
I'd rather have hot spots fully functional. With them the more experienced users wouldn't have to worry about interacting or not. Unfortunately they are quite buggy in many ways. All the best Jürgen Am 04.08.2013 um 21:15 schrieb Maria and Joe Chapman <bubbygirl1...@gmail.com>: > HI. yep I agree about interaction. Once I got used to it I kind of really > like it. > > > regards > Maria and crew from australia > email: > bubbygirl1...@gmail.com > check out > www.95-the-mix.com > where we play lots of great music > > > > > On 04/08/2013, at 9:55 PM, Matt Dierckens <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> But interaction makes so much more sense. >> Its basically telling VO, this is what I want to focus on, and not like >> windows where it reads you every single thing and half the time you have to >> read it anyway, and with VO you can choose to or not. >> Matt Dierckens >> matt.dierck...@gmail.com >> >> IOS and Macintosh User support, Windsor area >> Sight Substitution Centre >> >> On 2013-08-04, at 7:30 AM, Danny Noonan <da...@familynoonan.net> wrote: >> >>> I'm thinking of Garage band and how often you interact and stop interacting >>> over and over again. There are some key strokes but it's still such a time >>> sink. >>> >>> I don't know how it could be done away with fully but better use of >>> interaction by software would certainly make life easier. Have it be more >>> universal across apps both native and third party. Making vo j work in most >>> if not all multi interaction situations. Some times now it's vo j, other >>> times, vo command shift t to switch between tables and other times like in >>> the Sendspace wizard, you have 3 or more levels of interaction and have to >>> move up 2 levels, vo right and then interact in another chain of levels. >>> Arg. >>> >>> I love the mac but this is 1 of those things that makes the experience far >>> sloppier and less consistent and is a major stumbling block on many coming >>> to love using the OS despite its many advantages over windows. >>> >>> Danny. >>> >>> On 31/07/2013, at 9:03 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I think it is obvious that the interaction deal is one of the most >>>> difficult things that somebody who moves from Windows to Mac needs to deal >>>> with. What is frustrating is that it is not always clear when one needs to >>>> interact. Trial and error and lots of keystrokes and wasted time result. I >>>> certainly do agree that tabbing until your finger falls off isn't the best >>>> solution. But I do wonder if there might not be a more innovative means of >>>> efficiently navigating complex screens. Sometimes, it isn't even clear, >>>> for instance, that you are in a situation where interacting again would >>>> yield more info. I'm thinking of nested tables as an example. VO doesn't >>>> always announce the fact that you have moved into a level 12 or even 3 >>>> table or that you could do so by interacting. Maybe that is a coding >>>> issue, not a VO issue. I do wonder if there are actual blind users who >>>> work for Apple who have experience with other operating systems. I say >>>> that not because I want to see some other approach duplicated, but because >>>> I've seen too much tunnel vision coming from folks whose only experience >>>> is with one or another os. >>>> >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> Mary Otten >>>> motte...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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